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Unregistered June 8th, 2002 08:19 AM

using a modem...
 
I am in Heaven!!!! Limewire running off of Windows 2000 and a new v.92 modem enabeled me to download 120 megabyte program!!! This just was not possible for me before using a 56k connection. I had do do it over night but hey who cares...it was there waiting for me when I woke up the next morning. YAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Lloyd

Dividend June 10th, 2002 11:10 AM

v.92?!? :eek: Why can't they just let dial-up RIP with the 486's? I can't see how still having the phone screwed while on the web is heaven.

ursula June 10th, 2002 12:06 PM

Even just a few steps out of hell can seem like heaven! ;)
Let them enjoy the new for a while, hmmm?

gratis June 11th, 2002 08:38 PM

I'm not sure how the rates compare around the country/world, but I pay $40 a month for DSL service. A 56k modem downloads at 7 KiloBytes per second. This DSL service downloads at 160 KiloBytes per second. That's 120 MegaBytes in 12.5 minutes. Of course you don't usually get those speeds on limewire, but 5, simultaneous, 30 KiloByte downloads isn't uncommon (56 minutes for that 120 MB).

"If you have the means, I highly recommend picking one up."

igalan June 12th, 2002 02:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gratis
I'm not sure how the rates compare around the country/world, but I pay $40 a month for DSL service.
[...]
Of course you don't usually get those speeds on limewire, but 5, simultaneous, 30 KiloByte downloads isn't uncommon (56 minutes for that 120 MB).

Here with 512/128 Kbps ADSL seldom do I reach 40 KB/s in one download... The maximum speed is 60 KB/s (512 Kbps / 8b = 64 KB/s), not 150 KBps (the speed is in bits per second, not Bytes!).
Also 128 Kbps for the uplink is very low, this is a maximum of 16 KB/s. It's better a cable with symmetric channels :) .

gratis June 12th, 2002 11:12 AM

I clocked this connection ( http://www.dslreports.com/stest ) at 1.3 megabits. Upload is much slower (around 100kilobits = 12.5 KB/s).

igalan June 13th, 2002 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by gratis
I clocked this connection ( http://www.dslreports.com/stest ) at 1.3 megabits. Upload is much slower (around 100kilobits = 12.5 KB/s).
12,5 KB/s is slow :confused: for a 1,3 Mbps ADSL . I have set LimeWire (AquaLime in fact) with an upload limit of 10 KB/s and ppl gets 10 KB/s, and I'm also running WinMX 3.1 with a limit of 5 KB/s for uploads. It runs fine, but if I want to use the Internet for something else it's better to shutdown WinMX or Aqua :) . This using 512/128 Kb/s ADSL :) .

diefaster July 22nd, 2002 12:21 AM

my kingdom for high speed
 
I wish I could get high speed. Since I moved out to "hickville" I can only get a 56k connection. So be nice to us old 56k'ers as some of us it's our only choice (Yes I use to adsl when I lived in the big city and damm do i miss it.

igalan July 22nd, 2002 04:50 AM

With slow connections (56Kbps) you really need a peer that supports the Ultrapeer protocol, as LimeWire. Apart from slower download/upload speeds everything should be fine. I would recommend to throttle upload and downlaod speeds a bit lower (10% less) from the maximum to allow normal tcp/ip traffic apart from Lime.

bad_vlad July 22nd, 2002 01:31 PM

just love my 56k modem
 
I pay a measly $27 a month for a 56k connection versus around $60 month for cable - which - I would pay in a heartbeat if it were not for the 5 gig per month data transfer limit after which I'd need a second job to keep up with the criminally punitive 'excess' fees - yes its sloooow but its still viable in fact it has the ok side effect of encouraging doing other stuff at the same time as waiting 40 minutes for that 5mg mp3 file to 90 percent download before the host disapears and you have to start searching all over again - on the other hand my first modem had a baud rate of 1.2 (green letters sliding one after the other across the screen left to right line by line) so 56 is as close to heaven as I'm going to get untill Bobo the Red starts an Australian cable company and Telstra crumbles under the weight of its own arrogance and indifference to customers

bad_vlad

Joakim Agren July 22nd, 2002 01:48 PM

Re: using a modem...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
I am in Heaven!!!! Limewire running off of Windows 2000 and a new v.92 modem enabeled me to download 120 megabyte program!!! This just was not possible for me before using a 56k connection. I had do do it over night but hey who cares...it was there waiting for me when I woke up the next morning. YAAAAAAA!!!!!!

Lloyd

Hello!

A v92 modem is still a 56K connection!But remember that for modems the upload speed is not greater then 33Kbits/sec.And also the Upload and Download data transfer speed is counted together this means that if someone is uploading from you at a speed of 33Kbits/sec then you can only download at a speed of maximum 23Kbits/sec buts that is under optimal conditions.Most likely you will not get better download speeds then maximum 15Kbits/sec when someone/someone's is uploading from you.

Joakim Agren July 22nd, 2002 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by igalan

Here with 512/128 Kbps ADSL seldom do I reach 40 KB/s in one download... The maximum speed is 60 KB/s (512 Kbps / 8b = 64 KB/s), not 150 KBps (the speed is in bits per second, not Bytes!).
Also 128 Kbps for the uplink is very low, this is a maximum of 16 KB/s. It's better a cable with symmetric channels :) .

Hello!

I have a ADSL connection with the following official speed :512Kbits/sec downstream and 400Kbits/sec Upstream.However Since the software used on my ISP's Proxy Server to restrict bandwith for private individuals does not work effectivly against Mac Users I am able to get even better speeds up to 800Kbits/sec both Up and Down.

People are able to get up to 760Kbits/sec when downloading(Uploading from my side) from me (I use LimeWire 2.4.4).And I have under optimal conditions been able to download at a speed of 650Kbits/sec.

One of the advantages using a broadband connection is that the Upload and the Download speed is separated this mean that if someone is downloading from you it does not affect your own download speed.

The way you count the Byte size is incorrect.

Sure on storage mediums like HD'sa and CD's 1Byte=8bits but when counting Bytes from bits over network transmissions 1Byte=10bits

This is because data is sent as packages and each package is assigned an extra double bit so 1Byte becomes 10bits.This means that 128Kbits=12.8KB/sec

igalan July 23rd, 2002 01:15 AM

Re: Re: using a modem...
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Joakim Agren
And also the Upload and Download data transfer speed is counted together this means that if someone is uploading from you at a speed of 33Kbits/sec then you can only download at a speed of maximum 23Kbits/sec buts that is under optimal conditions.Most likely you will not get better download speeds then maximum 15Kbits/sec when someone/someone's is uploading from you.
No, they aren't! You have 56 Kbps for the downlink and 33Kbps for the uplink, the channels are full duplex. You can have a download at 5 KB/s and a upload at 3 KB/s at the same time :) .

Unregistered July 27th, 2002 06:19 AM

So much misinformation, so little time.


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