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Unregistered July 7th, 2002 02:17 PM

Limewire downloads far and few anymore
 
Getting substantially less downloads these past few months.
Program is dead.

Why can't any filesharing program stay good for any period of time. They all get bad after a while

bobomon July 7th, 2002 02:20 PM

I have similar results with several of the popular clients... (Limewire, Bearshare, Xolox, Shareaza) I think this issue is more the state of health of the Gnutella network than a problem with Limewire or any single client - other than possibly Morpheus.

Unregistered July 9th, 2002 10:14 PM

Re: Limewire downloads far and few anymore
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Getting substantially less downloads these past few months.
Program is dead.

Why can't any filesharing program stay good for any period of time. They all get bad after a while


I agree. This program is dying. Is it do to less people sharing files or what?

Krieger88 July 12th, 2002 01:58 AM

There are a couple of bad clients destroying the network.

ajutagir July 12th, 2002 06:39 AM

We're working on some features that might help mitigate this problem.

bad_vlad July 12th, 2002 01:47 PM

fewer downloads
 
I disagree - despite the influx of non limewire ultrapeers (especially morpheus - which admitedly don't offer as much as LW) I'm getting as much if not more than ever - in fact, I've been able to progressively cull my files of 128kb versions and replace them with much higher bit rate versions. Sure the network is sometimes a bit unstable but it always has been and always will be, its just the nature of p2p systems.

Krieger88 July 12th, 2002 02:08 PM

I'm receiving less search results indeed and I believe it's something to do with Morpheus Ultrapeers not being grouped together like LimeWire ultrapeers were. (there ratio of ultrapeer connections : 0.6 connections is something like 1:1 instead of 2:1)

The latest cvs code tries to cope with it by glueing LimeWire ultrapeers together more closely (not agressively enough if you ask me). I think it would be even more important to make the leaf nodes prefer LimeWire ultrapeers for optimal performance. I've been playing around with preferring LimeWire ultrapeers recently and I believe it might be benificial, - especially if LimeWire will use GGEP pongs (and other new features) which other ultrapeers might not necessarily understand.

MacTerminator July 14th, 2002 12:56 PM

Agreed, in general the number of search results has gone down over the last couple of months. On a positive note, though, I have noticed recently that I'm getting some results on music files that I wasn't getting before. The influx of ex-AG users, perhaps?

Big JiLm July 14th, 2002 04:50 PM

Bad Vlad, where the hell are you finding music?
 
The selection on Limewre is pathetic for anything besides mainstream drivel. When I do find something of interEst, I can get only 1-5 out of 100 requests.

Is it me, or does the Limewire/Gnutella network suck?

I really miss Audio Galaxy. I can only find a fraction of what was on there. While I share my large collection, it seems no one else is, AS I TYPICALLY HAVE 10% OF ALL AVAILABLE FILES!!!!! and I really am getting frustrated at the lack of songs that successfully download.

Out of 50 ***** songs I found, I was only able to download 4.

Why do they show up, if we can't download them?

Why can't Limewire fix this to show only the files that are online, so we don't have to waste out friggin time requesting the same songs that never download?????

Big JiLm July 14th, 2002 05:12 PM

70% OF GNUTELLA USERS DON'T UPLOAD
 
Well, I guess I found out why the selecton here sucks. With my files making up normally 10% of what is connected in the statistics, I am beyond frustrated at not only the lack of files, but the lack of the few files that I find, few if any download at all. What are we suppose to do now??? Why should I stay & make this better, if there is nothing to make better? Where are other post Audio Galaxy users going to find the music they can't find on Limewire/Gnutella???

Here is the info: http://www.firstmonday.org/issues/is...dar/index.html

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An extensive analysis of user traffic on Gnutella shows a significant amount of free riding in the system. By sampling messages on the Gnutella network over a 24-hour period, we established that almost 70% of Gnutella users share no files, and nearly 50% of all responses are returned by the top 1% of sharing hosts. Furthermore, we found out that free riding is distributed evenly between domains, so that no one group contributes significantly more than others, and that peers that volunteer to share files are not necessarily those who have desirable ones. We argue that free riding leads to degradation of the system performance and adds vulnerability to the system. If this trend continues copyright issues might become moot compared to the possible collapse of such systems.


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