Explain the Mistery!

Hi there.

Please explain one thing:

With Limewire version 2.3.1 i was able to have up to 30 000 hosts.
(usually about 20000).

With all the latest LimeWire´s I get up to 300 hosts or so.

Is this the future of Limewire?
The future of filesharing?

I always thought we get more and more users into the gnutella-net...where are they?

How can this be?

thanks in advance
mikrop

Someone clever might be able to give you a better answer but I think its something to do with Morpheus clients poisoining the gnutella network. Its been happening for over a month now and there's been plenty of discussion about it all over these forums. So its not your new version of Limewire causing the problems its just the point in time in which you choose to use it.

Hope that hopes a nano bit,

Quain

[Treatid]

Morpheus ultrapeers don't use up bandwidth reporting the number of hosts available. They still have the hosts - they just don't report them.

With regard to bandwidth - this is actually a good thing.

Morpheus does have faults - in particular, its default settings could do with a serious re-think (there are some very bad morpheus ultrapeers). But morpheus isn't as bad as many people seem to believe.

Mark

[bad_vlad]

I agree completely - whilst morpheus ultrapeers are tending to swamp the system a bit and their under reporting of connections gives the impression of not being as plugged into the network as in the past - the effect in terms of effective search results dosn't seem anywhere near as bad as some posts suggest

bad_vlad

[Joakim Agren]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Hi there.

Please explain one thing:

With Limewire version 2.3.1 i was able to have up to 30 000 hosts.
(usually about 20000).

With all the latest LimeWire´s I get up to 300 hosts or so.

Is this the future of Limewire?
The future of filesharing?

I always thought we get more and more users into the gnutella-net...where are they?

How can this be?

thanks in advance
mikrop

Hello!

Recently the newer versions of Morpheus do not report the number of hosts that is connected to them so this means that they will breake LimeWire statistics so these statistics is no longer accurate.Exactly as the other one have stated.But they are in reality connected to alot of other hosts except if you are connected to one of the bad Morpheus Ultrapeers.For some stupid reason to be an Ultrapeer is the default setting in Morpheus when selecting a connection speed greater then modem speed atleast that is what I have heard and since not even most Cable/ADSL users should be an Ultrapeer only T-1 or T-3 users should be that the result will be that that Ultrapeer will chocke up and become a bottle neck on the network that only have a few connections up and your Horizon will become small.Hopefully future realeses of Morpheus will have a different standard setting when installed because most Morpheus users do not know about all this technology stuff and do not make the neccesssary change in their preferences to be a good Gnutella user.But we should not blaim that on them instead the developers behind Morpheus should do something about it in their next realese.But unfortunatelly we cannot get rid and should not get rid(block) of Morpheus Ultrapeers and other Morpheus users because after all they do represent about 85-90%(about 90 million users worldwide) of the entire Gnutella user base.So when it comes to the number of users it is the biggest file sharing client ever only Kazaa can compete with about 78 million users.

My advice if you feel that you are getting bad results on your searches is to make several multiple seraches very fast and if that dont work then you can disconnect from the file menu and reconnect and hopefully you will get a better set of Ultrapeers that you are connected to and your horizon will grow significantly.

[Joakim Agren]

Originally posted by Unregistered
Hi there.

Please explain one thing:

With Limewire version 2.3.1 i was able to have up to 30 000 hosts.
(usually about 20000).

With all the latest LimeWire´s I get up to 300 hosts or so.

Is this the future of Limewire?
The future of filesharing?

I always thought we get more and more users into the gnutella-net...where are they?

How can this be?

thanks in advance
mikrop

Hello!

Recently the newer versions of MorpheOs do not report the number of hosts that is connected to them so this means that they will breake LimeWire statistics so these statistics is no longer accurate.Exactly as the other one have stated.But they are in reality connected to alot of other hosts except if you are connected to one of the bad MorpheOs Ultrapeers.For some stupid reason to be an Ultrapeer is the default setting in MorpheOs when selecting a connection speed greater then modem speed atleast that is what I have heard and since not even most Cable/ADSL users should be an Ultrapeer only T-1 or T-3 users should be that the result will be that that Ultrapeer will chocke up and become a bottle neck on the network that only have a few connections up and your Horizon will become small.Hopefully future realeses of MorpheOs will have a different standard setting when installed because most MorpheOs users do not know about all this technology stuff and do not make the neccesssary change in their preferences to be a good Gnutella user.But we should not blaim that on them instead the developers behind MorpheOs should do something about it in their next realese.But unfortunatelly we cannot get rid and should not get rid(block) of MorpheOs Ultrapeers and other MorpheOs users because after all they do represent about 85-90%(about 90 million users worldwide) of the entire Gnutelle user base.So when it comes to the number of users it is the biggest file sharing client ever only Kazzaa can compete with about 78 million users.

My advice if you feel that you are getting bad results on your searches is to make several multiple seraches very fast and if that dont work then you can disconnect from the file menu and reconnect and hopefully you will get a better set of Ultrapeers that you are connected to and your horizon will grow significantly.

[Bobo the Red]

Originally posted by Joakim Agren

... and since not even most Cable/ADSL users should be an Ultrapeer only T-1 or T-3 users should be that the result will be that that Ultrapeer will chocke up and become a bottle neck on the network that only have a few connections up and your Horizon will become small.

My cable modem provides me with a 3 MB/s downstream and a 1.75MB/s upstream ... now a T1 Provides 1.5MB/s both up and downstream ... tell me again why its better?

Originally posted by bad_vlad
I agree completely - whilst morpheus ultrapeers are tending to swamp the system a bit and their under reporting of connections gives the impression of not being as plugged into the network as in the past - the effect in terms of effective search results dosn't seem anywhere near as bad as some posts suggest

bad_vlad

BULL. ****.

I've done multiple tests of the same search either allowing or disallowing Morpheus ultrapeers. Without fail I get far more results when the Morpheus ultrapeers are absent.

I would be upset with the Morpheus people, if the Limewire developers weren't in such a state of denial.

[bad_vlad]

I agree the morpheus issue is real (obviously) but remember there's a difference between search results, connections, and completed downloads - LW ultrapeers yield plenty of files in searches but thats not to say its possible (via my 56k modem anyway) to easily connect/download - in LW morpheus ultrapeers are less useful than LW or gnucleus but in shareaza on the other hand I find BS hosts the most fruitful and stable followed by morpheus with LW hosts not being particularly good at all (the search results look impressive but they don't lead to succesful downloads nearly as often as BS or morpheus

though in LW I rarely ever see a BS ultrapeer and they get dropped pretty darn quick (way too quick I reckon)

Cheers, bad_vlad