Users of older versions must upgrade!!
 

ATTENTION USERS OF LIMEWIRE PRIOR TO 2.6!!

If you are using a version of LimeWire prior to 2.6.x, you must upgrade your LimeWire now. This is because the newer LimeWire versions include GWebCache support, and GWebCaches are required to connect to the Gnutella network.

pay and pay and pay...
 

I don't want to be a dick about this, but I'm a little annoyed whenever I pay for a product - thinking that "free updates for 6 months" means "free updates for 6 months" not "works for 6 months then you have to pay again".

If the product stops working alltogether after 6 months, then the product is a subscription based service, not purchased software.

F*** it, I'll pay. I like limewire. But I'll be out looking for another gnutella client now.

Zebulun has a point. If you are going to force people to upgrade, then you should either provide a significant upgrade discount to older pro users (say, within 1.5 years), or you should release a patch for them that will allow compatibility without necessarily including any additional features.

Agreed!
 

Well....
I honestly have to agree with Passive and zebulun on this one Adam!
This seems like fair suggestion on handling this situation professionally, helping to retain loyal LimeWire customers.

Hi all,

FYI

I have paid for three versions of Limewire Pro upgrades, within a year (ya, I keep losing that magic upgrade thingy), so I figure that my dues are paid up in that respect. I sometimes write Shareware and do believe in paying for software that works.

Recently after a Win98 crash, I said "the heck with it" and installed Win XP as my operating system. In the install process, my second hard drive (my goof, the one with the backups) got destroyed, along with all of my mp3 files.

Without my magic 'Limewire upgrade cookie' (or whatever the heck it is), I just decided to just use the free Limewire version. I also got tired of paying for a beta product that changes versions every few months.

I now use Norton Firewall 2003 and Win XP Home edition:

I have the Norton Firewall set to block ads.

The free version if Limewire (2.7.11) works just fine and I do not get any annoying ads at the bottom of the screen.

I have almost two weeks, so far, with XP/LW2.7.11, lots of downloads, no complaints.


Ken

it sounds more like they are taking the connect.limewire.com caches offline

free version
 

Is the free version still bundled with lots of spyware? I recall having to run adaware after installing the free limewire every time to remove Gator, TipTop and the like.

Also, I don't think the free version lets you connect to ultrapeers or hides you from every search as the paid for one does. I dunno - i figure that if I pay for something, i aught to have something in return. right now I'm trying soulsearch and a couple other clients.

The older versions prior to 2.6 will continue to work, - however you have to expect some problems getting connected if you aren't using LimeWire regularly.

The new free version comes with bundled software (that can easily be uninstalled) but it's now ad-free. Completely clean versions fro the cost of compiling it yourself can be obtained at www.limewire.org - so nobody is forcing you to pay for anything here. It's just that the old router4.limewire.com doesn't surf much purpose anymore and LimeWire wants to shut it down.

in a semi lucid moment ... (hey, its hard to get old)
 

Hi,

I have been writing software for about 16 years now (I know MASM by his first name, TASM too).

In all of that time I have learned that Mic**soft is arrogant (much like Limewire is now) in the upgrade department. I try REAL HARD not to buy micro**ft products.

As a counterpoint, I like Borland (now Enprise) products.

Here is why:

I have spent several thousands of dollars on code compiliers of each.

Whenever I contacted microsoft with a problem; they said I needed to buy the next version of their product for a fix. They also provided me with a phone book size list of 'bugs' in their current product that I needed to live with. Forever.

Borland, provided patches for free. And apoligized for the problems. The list of 'bugs' were fixed in the same version with upgrades.

I appreciate the product that Limewire is providing, heck, it is my favorite.

All I ask is:

Where is the money going?
Why torture faithful users with this upgrade crap?

ken

You know the saying - there's a sucker born every day? I paid to upgrade and there's no difference with the quality of down/uploading or anything else. I've posted elsewhere to say I even got a message saying I have a bug; I emailed the powers that be with no response. I've been had!!!!!

Shareaza is better
 

I don't want to start any flame wars, but I was like you guys also. I tried the free version of Limewire, and gave the idea of paying some thought. I noticed Shareaza had all of the features Limewire did, plus countless others. The main point here is that Shareaza is not only spyware free, it also is FREE.

Limewire collects money to improve the Gnutella Network, to me thats bullshit. Shareaza with only one developer outplayed, outsmarted, and outlasted Limewire, Bearshare, Xolox, and the list goes on. Honestly ask each other where does that money go to buy a worthless Pro version. I'm sure that money hasn't so far helped the network. This is a case of a developer selling out for money while still proclaiming that thier in it for the user. Shareaza is free, and does not need a PRO version because its official free public releases are that good. The creator of Shareaza hasn't sold out "yet", and maybe will never sell out.

I see that you guys are paying for something wich isn't good. Try Shareaza it is the solution to you problems.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/marriot...razabutton.gif

Download Shareaza

yeah whatever Slowmoe..... shareaza is a nasty client by it's social behavior and act as a cancer... avoid!!!

It's no good for the mac. I hear bearshare is better than limewire but again, no good for the mac.

Shareaza breed's envy
 

Hahaha!!!

That is the stupidest reply ever, are you still reffering to the naming of Gnutella2/ "MP". Come on and grow up, just stop whining. If thier is technical reasoning then your post is justified, but in this case it isn't.

Social behaviour? Start thinking about your pocket, you are paying for a far less superior program. When a better solution is already free and far superior. Also, what social implication is it when that software throws a bunch of Spyware into your drive.

PS. Once you are in a P2P environment, and are committed in downloading and sharing copyrighted materials. You already are breaking one major Social rule. "Thy shalt not STEAL", so don't be a hypocrite ok. In a P2P network most of us are crooks, and thier is no honour between crooks. Social Behaviour's are cast out the window in P2P environments, as soon as you break that "devine" law.

"Bad Social Behaviour", What kind of baseless argument is that. Little one please grow up and give a strong argument stating facts, rather than throwing down my argument with such nonsense.

Oh no, everybody run.
Shareaza Nazis!!!

I think you should allow free upgrdes during a 12-month month period. Whatever you do, please keep paying customers like me in the loop. Thanks.

P Tobin

No, Bearshare IS NOT better than LimeWire. I tried most of the Gnutella clients, and Limewire seems to be the best of them.
My only problem is content, which is the networks problem, not the clients.

And mine, of course :confused: ;)

I've tried them all, and they all seem to work fine for me. My current concern with limewire and the requests to upgrade ..... is that after 2.3.3 they killed all options of allowing me (on my 45MEG DS3, to connect to more than 12 hosts at a time. This dropped my available connected data from 1500TeraBytes down to merely 5-10Terabytes at best. (usually I would connect to 99 hosts at a time - so long as my CPU held up - because my Internet never got clogged.)

I decided that this is when the Network took a severe drop in quality. I cannot connect to as many places, so i no longer feel the need to leave my client up 24/7 anymore, and allow my hundreds of Gigs of data to the world. I figure many others are doing this too.

Another important fact is that they have destroyed the requery system, so it makes no sense to leave our limewires running since no matter how long we use it, it wont get files accept while we are actively sitting at the computer to manually re-search.

If I get daring, I may download the open source, and hack it to allow me to more fully utilize my Internet connection, and put back the features that I need to successfully collect 20gig a day, as was possible before.

But for now, even though i use 2.9.8 with an average of 500gig available to me (lame - because it only connects to 3 hosts!), I still usually find 99% of my files using 2.3.3 and dont intend to upgrade it.

In the meantime, I do find best success by attempting to load multiple software clients at once. None really seems to outshine any other yet.

You cannot hack LimeWire into doing requeries because other LimeWires will filter those requeries when they encounter them. LimeWire completely disabled queries by hash.

Besides 2.3.3 requeries have been filtered by all LimeWire ultrapeers for a long time, so your requeries never actually improved your download experience.

Thanks for the update. Possibly some other clients accept requeries... besides limewire, and perhaps some older limewire clients still accept them. I agree with you that if limewire is filtering them, then it would not make a significant improvement to my download experience. But at the moment, I still tend find quite a few requiries working. I can only attribute this to the fact that there are older limewire clients and non-limewire clients connected to the same network.

I do appreciate your explanation, and I will forget the idea about hacking it to work, since I cannot affect the filters of everyone else.

Very disappointed
 

I upgraded, and silly me! I expected better performance. A search that previously gave me 200+ results now gives me a whopping 30, and none of them are legitimate. There is no place that I can adjust the number of connections. I seem to only have three or four, and all are completely worthless. I've been a big supporter (paid and everything) of Limewire, but this upgrade has rendered it useless. Very disappointing indeed. Anybody know a good Mac client?

The new version improved the average number of search results (especially for rare content) significantly. But it also now limits the number of search results. You might have to refine your search (making it more exact by adding keywords for example) to get more results.

"trap_jaw The new version improved the average number of search results (especially for rare content) significantly. "

but in a different thread you said.....

"However it is very likely that a search will return more results if it is really popular."

So which is it?

Don't get me wrong I really like Limewire, but I seem to have taken a big hit since I upgraded from 2.8.6.

I used to leave my machines on the network all the time because the requeiry feature did always find the files (sometimes it took a couple days, but I always got the file). I can't believe you took that away. This one change alone seems to have made the product useless. That and not being able to configure the number of connections.

I don't see a contradiction, so I'd say both. Rare files can be found more easily. The number of search results is now limited by the ultrapeers you are connected to but searches for popular content return more results than they should (the result limit is at 240 results atm but you might still get some 400 or 500 results).

Yes, but the traffic the requery feature caused was more than the network could manage. The number of searchable ultrapeers had been limited drastically so LimeWire decided to filter all requeries by all servents so manual queries could reach more ultrapeers and effectively search a bigger part of the network.

let me understand....
 

But if you've limited the number of ultrapeers I can connect too (now 3 instead of user defined), didn't my search results become just as limited, but now I can't auto-retry?

I'm realy not trying to be a butt about this, but I can't leave my computer on to just find things, AND my result lists are smaller. I could live without the retry if I always found (and downloaded) what I was after on the first search. But that still isn't the case. My search results are smaller and it doesn't retry. This seems to be a step backwards to me.

I'm guessing though if I understand everything that has been said (on a couple of different boards) that if EVERYONE was on 2.9.x then life would be perfect and we would all get great results. But is it really realistic to expect everyone to upgrade?

Your theoretical network horizon (the number of hosts you could reach if your searches weren't ever dropped by other ultrapeers) has always been greater than the actual network size, - even if you would connect only to one ultrapeer you should (in theory) be able to search the whole gnutella network. The problem is that the network is overloaded and that there are many freeloaders.

STUPID FUCKIN FILES
 

KNOW WHAT I HATE???

STUPID ****ING PEOPLE CALLING **** SOMETHING IT'S NOT.

OR LIKE, WHEN THEY CALL CALL IT PHOTOSHOP AND AND IT'S BRITNEY SPEARS PORN.
I REMEMBER THE FIRST TIME I SAW A FILE NAMED "NINE INCH NAILS WITH DAVID BOWIE (PINK FLOYD COVER) CONFORTABLY NUBM"

TURNS OUT THE FILE WAS NOT WHAT IT SAID AND NINE INCH NAILS NEVER EVEN DID A PINK FLOYD SONG WITH DAVID BOWIE.

AND MACROMEDIA IS VIRTUAL PC, AND VIRTUAL PC IS VIRTUAL GIRL.

AND YOU KNOOOWWW IT'S NOT FOTOSHOP WHEN THE FILE IS 2,000 KB

I THINK THIS IS THE BIGGEST ISSUE OVER ALL IN FILE SHARING. AND I AM GOING TO TAKE TIME OUT OF MY DAY TO SPAM THIS ALL OVER THIS FORUM, BECAUSE I FEEL IN MY HEART THAT EVERYONE NEEDS TO HEAR IT.

Update???
 

Okay, I understand your reasons for telling us to update, but the program stopped working as well as the older ones. If you have problems with the software and cannot provide fixes, "Why am I paying for them?"..If it aint broke, DON'T FIX IT!!!:confused:

You cannot remember your email address? That is what you need to download Limewire, the emaill address you gave them when you purchased it.

that last post was a bit starnje and i know what that guy means about miss named stuf but who can be assed to spam and spaming is bad

Upgrade
 

Hi,

My last post on this upgrade topic was more than a few months ago.

Let us not now shoot the messenger of these bad tidings (again).

Since that time, I have tried the 'pay for' version of kazza. It is a good product, but here I am back to LimeWire again.

After the original Napster went 'belly up', I have used just about all of the sharing software that was out there. I keep coming back to LimeWire.

The main thing that has changed that I do not like, is that I cannot control the number of connections. I would like to see an 'expert' tab that would allow users to tweak things as they could in the earlier versions.

The 'generic' selections are like DSL, CABLE, ...

I will offer this information as historical:

I had a cable connection that would download at 1840kb and upload at 252kb. I now have a DSL connection (for much less money) that allows me to download at 1296kb and upload at only 162kb.

I know the 'generic' settings for these are a bit off so I would like to be able to adjust for my local providers parameters.

Conclusion:
It bothers the 'heck' out of me to have to keep paying for the same 'product' over again but I'm old fashioned. Don't hold that against the good folks at LimeWire. I keep buying General Motors products too. There has to be something there that is valuable in both cases. If it is worth it I'll spend a few bucks on it.

Both of their products seem to keep improving and I appreciate that.

Regards,

Ken