the above post is mine forgot my user name
anyways i have downloaded one of the above mentioned files it has a click me first file that sets of the trojan horse virus (i used the zip file as all extracted files are scanned by norton and it just kills the file dead also i extract to a safe partition not C it is also the german porn dialer so 2 virus in one not bad for a total Wa***r any way the way i stopped it was to use startup manager it killed it dead so i could just delete all the relevate files

just like to say i have down loaded some fantastic stuff of limewire memturbo being one of the best