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Old March 19th, 2004
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Default Why is music p2p sharing illegal?

Someone, please tell me why this is illegal? I mean, other than because major corporations run the music industry and were making fortunes from it, then suddenly people could share music and they took a big hit. So they're trying to gain back control of the CD sale market abusing a wrong approach? (TECHNOLOGY CHANGES BOZOS) They're just too rich, and too stupid, and too corrupt to care.

If they want to make money, why don't they find ways to deliver mp3s more efficiently and with better quality than an OPEN SOURCE p2p network infested with all kinds of viruses? You know, when performing a service for a fee, shouldn't that service be something EASIER than what the general public can conceive themselves?

ARE THEY DUMB OR JUST PLAIN STUPID?
Where do I go if I want to buy/get *ANY* song in the world? There isn't even a ****** place better than limewire on the internet. So even if I *HAD* a billion trillion gazillion dollars to spend on overpriced plastic cases, IT WOULD BE IMPRACTICAL. I bet Bill Gates uses p2p. (j/k)

Would sharing music with a friend over MSN be illegal in the constraints of the law? What if you start singing some lyrics, and they say "Hey, what are you singing?" and you say, "Oh this song, from so and so.", then point them in the direction of a website where they can reveal their credit card to the internet and ORDER one of these CDS (which are totally useless to me. I hate cds, too few songs, too much plastic) through the mail. SO they have to wait a week to get it, then they finally do, and by then they don't really care what the lyrics are.

And what about sites like Xanga.com, and users there that have mp3s up? They're just trying to add to the ambience of their website. THEY ARE NOT MAKING A PROFIT. But 'HACKERS' (lol), could read through the code and download the mp3 directly. Oops, They're publically sharing a song! They're thieves! GUARDS! CUT OFF THEIR HANDS!

Let's get serious here. Don't we have better things to do with our time?
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Old March 22nd, 2004
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Quote: ARE THEY DUMB OR JUST PLAIN STUPID?

Well to awnser your question they are both
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<<Someone, please tell me why this is illegal?>>

It's illegal for the same reason that sneaking into your local theater is illegal. You're stealing a service that people are providing for a fee. Sure record companies charge too much and stiff the artists too often, but claiming to be righting that wrong is an excuse, not a reason.

How would you feel if your total income depended on music sales, and you found that everyone was downloading pirated copies of music you sweated over for months, to get just right? And don't bitch that there's no way to get the music you want at a reasonable cost, because Apple sells it at about a buck a song download.

My kids are in a band, and they've spent ten years working their way to the point where they are about to be signed. That's ten years of their life devoted to honing their skills, while waiting tables and eating a LOT of Hamburger Helper. It's called paying your dues, and they did it gladly, because of a love of the music and the hope that it might someday pay off.

How do you think they will feel when someone like you tells them they get paid too much so you're going to steal the music, and then give it away to anyone who will take it? Will you then complain that people just don't bother making good music anymore?

Plain and simple. You, I, and the rest of the people downloading movies and music are both unethical and immoral. I admit it, though, and don't pretend I'm fighting for a cause when I steal. To my eternal shame I'm not only a thief, I'm a petty thief.

End of rant. I feel much better now.
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Your writing ability certainly makes up for the odd dash of petty larceny !
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Probably plagiarised (Naw, just kidding JayG!)
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Probably plagiarised (Naw, just kidding JayG!)
Wow !
If that was illegal, there would be NO music business !!!
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