Not necessarily, some antivirus detectors, such as AVG sometimes detect some things as a virus. As long as everyone using AntiVirus software keep there definitions up-to-date everything will be fine. :)

I can´t remember which scanners, but there were more people who reported this.... funny was that the Limewire developers removed this crap after some weeks...

Morgwen

Well, maybe it was a virus, but maybe they wanted to have a fresh start by releasing v4.0 free of any bundles. Who knows, only they do.

They bundled other crap loooooooooooooooooooooong after this and looooooooooooooooong before v4.0.

I talked with Adam Fisk (a former developer) about it he told me some things... the bad thing is that I deleted all my PMs some time ago. :(

Morgwen

Damn, that sucks! Maybe it would have been good to know the real truth behind LimeWire LLC

It was not a virus, some virus scanners decieded to consider this a trojan because it was capable of downloading other programs and installing them without asking the user. - By itself it may not have been dangerous but it was a big security risk.

The reason 4.0 is free of any bundles is obviously a new business strategy. There are apparently enough Pro customers to finance further development and by not bundling any software, LimeWire gains credibility and even more users. Ever since spyware became an issue for the average user, bundling software became just bad advertising.

Personally, I don't believe that spyware/adware is really that bad, if you know what your doing, you can always get rid of it again and it's usually not really malicious. It may try gathering some information about surfing habits but you can do the same and more using a couple of webservers and a lot of cookies. If you ever wondered what google is putting into all that cookies it stores in your browser or where those fastclick/hitbox cookies come from, they are for tracking surfing habits, storing which searches you enter in google, which google ads you click. With its market-share, Google can monitor surfers on every website that displays Google ads.

Clicktillyouwin was in LW 2.6 AFAIK, after that they were mainly bundling LimeShop. - Can't seem to remember who they licensed it from, it was not really their own invention.... Was one of the more common pieces of bundled software at the time.

And so do I about Morpheus.

@ Vampmon: T R O L L ! ! !

At least with LW they didn't bundle crap on Mac and Linux and it was possible to compile your own version as I do (trap_jaw too) now. Those things can't be said about the POS company that builds Moprheus isn't it? :rolleyes:

Edit: LW came with spywares between released versions 1.8 and 3.8.

et voilà, why don’t you stop being so bias about Morpheus. I am trying to be fair with LimeWire, I even defend it when it’s needed, but you try your all time best to drag Morpheus down, well I’m sorry volia, but it’s not going to work.

Wow knowing what you say on other forums like zeropaid about LW, I think you deserve a:

STOP ACTING AS A TROLL!

I'd like one time that you REALLY read one of my post, then you would realize it all makes sense. :rolleyes:

From now on et voilà, i'm gojng to ignore most of your posts, i have tried, but i give up.

Perfect as you never read my posts anyway, troll. However I won't ignore yours. :rolleyes:

I do read your posts, but you are never fair.

Anyway this is going off-topic.

What does banning Morpheus have to do with someone reading someone elses posts?

I ignore things i don't agree with.

EDIT:

OK, people… We got off to a bad start I think, let’s clear the slate clean and start again.
I’m sure everyone here has different thoughts and views of different things, and I don’t agree I should be isolated because I believe Morpheus is a decent file sharing application, it’s not right.

What does a trojan in your eyes? A trojan downloads and connects without permission and the user don´t know what it downloads. And yes it is a security risk a BIIIIIIIIIIG one.

Yes Limeshop which redirected links to other websites to steal money... ah yes I like such usefull programs. :rolleyes:

Morgwen

Well I think this was true at first, but they (the devs of the topmoxie spyware (I think it's its name)) changed the way it worked sometime. Anyway, it never installed on my mac :)

You know what Morgwen: Ebates that Morpheus installs is exactly the same as Limeshop.

One more reason to install Morpheus, as I said I love such usefull software. :rolleyes:

Morgwen

A trojan per definition is a program that hides its true identity and is intended to offer other people remote access to your computer. clicktillyouwin had a very stupid and insecure auto-update function.

The problem of overwriting the "affiliate" variable of other website was a bug and it was fixed shortly after it was discovered. We had this conversation before, - it was pointless then, it is pointless now.

I think not. The humans learn from history. This example should show that Vampnon shouldn´t say to loud that Morpheus is save from such "faults".

Morgwen

I don´t belive that this was a bug and it really doesn´t matter. Is this the "official" Limewire statement?
The Limewire developers didn´t care about it. I told you that Adam Fisk confirmed that he knows how Limeshop is working and he said this is better than asking money from the users... and yes I also told you that some LW developers have deleted these posts.

And "shortly" after several weeks after MANY people complained about it it was removed. Yes a very quick reaction. :rolleyes:

Pointless for me is that you defend Limewire and your developer friends, doesn´t matter if they do good things or bad things, doesn´t matter if they are guilty or not.

Morgwen

Well, there goes Morgwen over the edge !

The above quote provides inarguable evidence that Morgwen is completely mad !


:eek:

Where would you we be without history? Do you think we would be able to build cars, fly a plane or visit the moon? Sure not.

Every book and paper where an other human wrote down his experience is history. All humans who read it can learn form this history - if they want.

Its also human that some faults will be repeated!

Morgwen

Any chance someone can start talking about the LimeWire Beta Program, or someone else can move this thread to Open Discussion?

As the chances of this thread returning to anything remotely resembling on topic are probably nil...

moved

great to see so many mods having such a good time...:eek:

Its not true that only bookworms learn from history. You learn many things which other people wrote in the school or later during your education etc.. Who told you that Nero burned Rome? Who could know it without any documents? The history teaches you that he does! But you are right the people who can read have a big advantage. ;)

I have to repeat its also human that we will repeat some faults.

Morgwen

Perhaps you should move it to the mod forum. ;)

Morgwen

Agreed. Maybe this thread should be deleted totally ;)
BTW, LimeWire won't install on my computer so, no point me talking about it :p

If history has taught us one thing, it's that you can't learn from history if you delete it.

The LimeWire installer has rather high standards concerning for whom it works and for whom it won't. It's part of the new "keep the network clean" policy.

I'd rather LimeWire not be on my computer anyway, but i thought i would help out by testing the latest Beta. Fine by me though :)

I know the International version works on my computer.

:D

Perhaps we should delete you to avoid future faults? :cool:

Morgwen