hi lord of the rings,
below is the address of the site that scammed me, after asking for a refund and them originally saying yes, they now say i am not eligible for a refund. so i went back to my bank and made a fuss and put it in writing and they are looking at it now, after saying it wasn't there problem (it's amazing how things change when your face to face and not on the phone to some foriegner who will never see you so doesn't care) don't know if i,ll ever get my money back but i aint givin up now

ukbobboy i'll owe you a drink if i ever do get it back i mght have thought you a bit harsh but your words sunk in and i am determined to see it through i wont be scammed again and i will pass my knowledge on to others little though it is

Spar1691

Cheers for that, I am glad you took my comments in the way they were meant and not as a personal attacks, which some people mistakenly believe.

You know, I get angry when ordinary working people get ripped off by scammers and I believe that victims of these sites should not sit quietly back and just accept it. They should demand their money back and push their credit card companies and banks not to do business with parasites (rip-off merchants). After all, if the banks did not provide the necessary banking facilities these scam site would not be able to rip people off.

That’s why, in part, I changed the tone of my advice from "soapy soft" to "harsh" to tell people that if you don’t look after your money no one else will. Because the banks and CCs are only interested in the fees each transaction generates they don’t give a “flying toss” that a scam site customer is actually a victim of fraud. Unfortunately, that did not go down too well and people got angry with me instead of the site that ripped them off.

Spar1691, I am sorry the scammers won’t give you your money back but that is as expected, but the bank, as a respected institution, has a moral obligation to refund your money (which they can readily do by debiting the scammer’s account). Because they, the banks, provided the crooks and parasites with the necessary facilities that allowed you, and countless others, to be ripped off, so they should do something about it.

Anyway, good luck and we’ll meet up for that drink when this is over.




UK Bob

well everyone I just found out I got scammed. This website http://www.mymusicinc.com/ got me for 34.98. Just found this out and reported them to the FBI and the Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC). I fell like snaping a neck right now

aaaaaaaaaaannnnnd yes, a refund showed up on my cc today thank goodnessssss....

I have some clues here for people who are easily scammed. Website owners who don't spell or grammar check their sites generally have their mind on other things, like your money.

A quick sample of the English usage on americamp3network:

"In today market"
"On the other side, many of our current customes "
"If you registered and did not received and email "

And my personal favorite: "Support is offered at FREE OG CHARGE for our member "

There are many more.

I may be being a little unkind here, but come on, the signs aren't good when they can't even be bothered to produce a professional web site.

I am thinking of offering a service which checks out web sites for people and tells them if it is a scam or not. It'll cost 39.99 and...

scloud

You will find that most of the people that get scammed suffer from one or more of the following:

1) Too busy to research into or check or the site properly.

2) Fail to see the warning signs because they are either naive or too enthusiastic.

3) Forget to engage "common sense".

4) Fail to understand that a site on the internet can be anywhere in the world and so are governed by different laws.

5) Do not know who they are paying their money to and what they are paying for.

6) Do not understand the concept of P2P or P2P networks.

7) Will jump first and (maybe) ask questions later.

8) Very gullible, have a tendancy to believe the "Highly Improbably", e.g. Unlimited MP3 downloads and Unlimited film downloads for a one off price, lifetime membership (to what?), etc.

9) Failure to take responsibility, i.e. "It's not my fault".

And so on.

Reading the site's advert checking for gramatical and or spelling mistakes is, quite frankly, a non-starter.

Still every little bit helps.



UK Bob

PS. Some people may think I am harsh and heartless but I get angry when working people (like myself) throw their hard earned money away to scammers who do nothing but sit back and laugh. They laugh at us because they think that working people are "stupid gullible chumps", easily fleeced of our cash and belongings.

well...I DID do my research for a few days (or so I thought). I knew nothing of p2p networks, didn't know that was the technical term for it. I just knew that I wanted to download and burn songs and movies. If you do a search from yahoo, google, etc. on the "best" music downloading site, or something of that criteria...these "scam" websites pop up. I had heard of Kazaa, Limewire, etc. and thought that these were the "illegal" sites and thought that by paying for this site that everything was legal. And a lifetime membership for $29.95 sounded great! Understand? So it's alot of people like me who get scammed like that. See my point?

aprila220 i like you did a search and new next to nothing but the site i went to was mentioned in a mag so thought it was safe but now i see what a p**t i was things like free lifetime downloads for $34.99 what was i thinking, you were lucky to get a refund i have had to put everything in writing to my bank just to try to get my money back and then only after making a nuisance of myself at my branch until then they didn't want to know.

hindsight is a wonderful thing but i hope people reading these forums will find out they have been had in time to get refunds,(the site that scammed me had a 30 day money back clause which i now find out they have to by law) not that they will bother to abide by it.

At least you getting your refund gives me hope.

I had the same problem. I was having a minor difficulty with my "free download of Limewire," only I only paid for one year after they finally offered me a free trial. MyMusic.com didn't want to give me the refund, but after multiple threats and reminding them of their free trial offer, they relented. When they asked me on the "request for refund" form, I told them exactly why - they were a scam and that I could get the same software free anyway from the original legitimate site.

So, just keep at them, they'll give you your money back. Report it to your bank and/or credit card company and tell them you did it.

Worked for me.

I do see your point, but, you'd be far better searching for something like "p2p SCAM" first.
I'll tell you how I found this forum: I got an email advertising
_www.americamp3network.com. I did what I always do when checking out sites I've never heard of, I typed "americamp3network scam" into google to see if anything came up, and this forum was the SECOND entry. Call me cynical, but I'm not the one pouring 30 dollars of my hard earned cash down the drain. Remember just about anyone can set up a site on the internet in countries where it is almost impossible to get any legal redress - suspect first, trust (maybe) later.