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Old September 3rd, 2004
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Speaking of Yahoo!, you do know I suppose that typing in Limewire as search keyword at Yahoo!.com returns as Sponsor results(!) scam sites.
Man. And I was wondering how all those people got tricked. I see it now. You're new to the net. You've heard of Yahoo! (probably even used it once or twice before too). You've also heard of Limewire. So you look for it in Yahoo!.com and come up with the scam sites and get tricked because you're new...
I took the trouble to send them feedback (at the bottom of the search results page), telling them that people are being tricked because of their "sponsor results". (I didn't mention that Google doesn't do that, but now that I think about it, maybe I should have). I don't think that one feedback like that will do something, but maybe if more people sent them feedback like that (yes, I'm talking about all of you in here. Those who got tricked and those who didn't altogether), then maybe, just maybe, they might decide to think it through.
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Old September 3rd, 2004
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Speaking of Yahoo!, you do know I suppose that typing in Limewire as search keyword at Yahoo!.com returns as Sponsor results(!) scam sites.
Man. And I was wondering how all those people got tricked. I see it now. You're new to the net. You've heard of Yahoo! (probably even used it once or twice before too). You've also heard of Limewire. So you look for it in Yahoo!.com and come up with the scam sites and get tricked because you're new...
I took the trouble to send them feedback (at the bottom of the search results page), telling them that people are being tricked because of their "sponsor results". (I didn't mention that Google doesn't do that, but now that I think about it, maybe I should have). I don't think that one feedback like that will do something, but maybe if more people sent them feedback like that (yes, I'm talking about all of you in here. Those who got tricked and those who didn't altogether), then maybe, just maybe, they might decide to think it through.
Sponsored links on Yahoo! or on ZDNet/CNET/Download.com does not mean approval by these services or quality or popularity. It's just an indication that the "sponsors" payed to get a placement on their search result pages.

I never follow such sponsored links on any site, unless this was the site I really wanted to visit before making the search...
Anyone can buy a placement on these services even for a poor and bogous product. There's no a-priori control, except for the payment itself. Of course if the sponsored link reveals to be a scam, Yahoo can make something after scrutiny, but only if the sponsor broke a Yahoo TOS policy, or if there's something illegal according to the US law. A link by itself is not illegal, unless the whole sponsored site is declared illegal. It will be easier to demonstrate a breach in the Yahoo TOS policy, if the sponsor uses its link on Yahoo to perform abusive operations such as spamming (the link alone shown on Yahoo results is not a spam), or abuse of a reserved trademark (if that link uses "LimeWire" in its domain name and describe its service without permission from Lime Wire LLC, NYC, USA). What can be done in this case is that LimeWire contacts Yahoo to claim its ownership on the registered trademark.

This said, the first two "sponsored results" on Yahoo are not working now (domain name parked?):
- www(dot)limewire-downloads(dot)com
- www(dot)limewiresoftware(dot)com
But the three others are still working:
- mp3downloadhq(dot)com
- www(dot)mp3sharing(dot)us
- www(dot)mp3musiczone(dot)com
The last three include the terms "with LimeWire" in their description, and this is an abuse of trademark. Additionally, none of these sites respect the GPL licence for the software copyright. Who will pay $1/month for these scammers that want you to pay to download a free software, modified with spywares and an illegal licence?
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Hello to all. I'm new here at the Gnutella Forums, but not new to the internet. I took a look at the site from the initial post, FilesharingCenter.

Interesting things can be found in their TOS, such as ...

"TERMS OF SERVICE
1. FileSharingCenter makes no claim to ownership or proprietary interest in any of the websites and/or software it recommends. We do not re-sell or license software downloaded from other sites. "

If I'd been directed there from a search engine listing them as a site for Limewire, that paragraph alone would have been enough to keep my credit card in my pocket. If they state that they don't "re-sell" software......ummmm,well, just what did you think you were paying for?

Folks, you can really help yourselves by reading the Terms of Service, on ANY site requiring membership, especially if one must PAY for the membership. Read carefully, and read the fine print on the signup page as well.

I know this won't help the fellow whose card was already charged, but hopefully others can benefit from this.
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Old November 25th, 2006
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Hello to all. I'm new here at the Gnutella Forums, but not new to the internet. I took a look at the site from the initial post, FilesharingCenter.

Interesting things can be found in their TOS, such as ...

"TERMS OF SERVICE
1. FileSharingCenter makes no claim to ownership or proprietary interest in any of the websites and/or software it recommends. We do not re-sell or license software downloaded from other sites. "

If I'd been directed there from a search engine listing them as a site for Limewire, that paragraph alone would have been enough to keep my credit card in my pocket. If they state that they don't "re-sell" software......ummmm,well, just what did you think you were paying for?

Folks, you can really help yourselves by reading the Terms of Service, on ANY site requiring membership, especially if one must PAY for the membership. Read carefully, and read the fine print on the signup page as well.

I know this won't help the fellow whose card was already charged, but hopefully others can benefit from this.
Might I also recommend siteadvisor.com, free add in to IE (Internet Explorer) and FF (Firefox) tells you about dangerous downloads, scams, etc. Maybe I'll get some webspace and start a real p2p downloads website so people dont get conned.
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I had a similar experience before I downloaded limewire. I paid 20.00 for a year of unlimited movie downloads, right after I downloaded the so called software and couldn't get the movie or contact any customer support. I got page cannot be displayed. I immediately called my bank and they stopped payment and took care of it. The name of the web site was unlimited movie downloads. I hope everyone who reads this message hasn't already been tricked by these scam artist.
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Old October 3rd, 2004
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So having just read the above posts then I must have fallen for it too, I have just paid £34 for Lime Wire and additional movie searches!!!!! I was directed to this site which said you had to choose your provider, and the fee you pay is for quicker d/ls, more search results etc etc and more importantly no pop ups or ads (which is what I wanted), - when I went to upgrade to lime wire pro and it said 'if you have dowloaded limewire in the last 30 days click here for automatic upgrade - which I did, when I entered my email address - It could not be found in records! Is this because it doesn't exist? - What has happened here?? This was 8 days ago!!
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Old October 4th, 2004
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Having just read a previous thread I have realised that I have been scammed. Before getting lime wire I typed in Kazza.com I was automatically taken to a billing site (check it out for yourself!) I foolishly typed in my card details thinking this was legitimate!!!!! and have subsequently been billed £33.50 ($58.63) the payee is CLKBANK*COM DOWNLOAD which my bank tell me are a registered software company!!!!!! Good news is that they are going to refund my money and investigate the claim!! PLEASE BEWARE, I am not new to the internet but this fooled me!!!
Has anyone else had the same experience recently????????
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What has happened here?? This was 8 days ago!!
Did you read the thread? You aren“t in the recordes because you never bought the Limewire PRO version, the basic version which you are using is FREE... you don“t need to pay for faster downloads because this isn“t possioble, because you are downloading from people like you and me and not from big servers.

Ask for a refund!!!

in future download ONLY from the official Limewire site:

http://www.limewire.com/

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Old October 7th, 2004
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Keep adding addresses everyone.. some friends of mine are working on a site about it
This link has the biggest compiled list of scam sites around.. http://www.p2pforums.com/portal.php?guide=4407
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Old October 22nd, 2004
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I was scammed from http://www.limewiresoftware.com/ .. I am no stranger to the internet and I work in the IT industry.

For anyone that think's it's all the naive and non tech people out there who has been scammed well this is not the case.

It okay looking back and seeing all the tell tale signs - the first has to be their logo which has been compressed as a jpg instead of a gif.

I got caught out simply because I was told of limewire by a freind and he suggested getting the registered version. I guess I done a global search and seen limewiresoftware so of course I registered my details with a simple click - although carelessly. It's only if you are aware of the whole scam that's networked around file sharing then you'd probably be on guard but in this case it was definately deception by what I'd consider a "spoofed" site.

It also claims that it's ad free and spyware free yet in another description on the site they mention it HAS got spyware in it. The intention obviously is to con people by thinking "no adware, yup that's the correct version of software I want to purchase".

They then send you details of what you have just purchased, which is basically.... wait for it..... a page on the internet! Yep, this is what you get for 30 USD.... http://www.limewiresoftware.com/succ.htm ... oh remember and bookmark it!

What really annoys me is I don't pay for a product specifically for use of the program. In this case I feel it's a donation to support developers of the community as a whole.

I quickly found out how these people operate and it's mainly being diverted through mis-spellings. That's how search engines and awareness are not effective at alerting people when they search. I thought the person who recommended limewire was saying linewire so I guess I searched that and thats how I ended up with this fu**krs page.

I see other sites people have mentioned and they are more careful and actually have clear intepretations of what your paying for. In the instance of limewiresoftware, can that be considered as a fraudulant site giving various reasons as to me it clearly intended to decieve. If this IS actually legal and within the boundries of what standards we have then I guess there's no point - otherwise I will challenge the transaction.
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