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koufax07 January 11th, 2005 08:59 AM

Movies wont burn on DVD's
 
I tried copying movies even as backups on dvd's and they won't copy....says wrong disc...I am using a DVD-RW...
Can the Movie be too large from LW and I have to transfer it smaller somehow?

Am I on the right track?

TY

koufax07 January 12th, 2005 04:01 AM

burning dvd's
 
So you think that when i'm trying to burn them to dvd's the burner is not recognizing that? But it says burn to cd or dvd?
Is there something i am missing to click on?

Lord of the Rings January 12th, 2005 04:20 AM

Make sure you have a burner that can burn dvd's. CD burners cannot burn dvd's. Make sure you're using the correct media, cd's & dvd's look the same but have totally different capacities.

How large is the movie file? What file type is it (eg: avi, mpeg, etc.)? What brand & model of burner are you using? Which software brand & version are you using?

koufax07 January 12th, 2005 05:15 AM

burning dvd's
 
I have a brand new HP... burner is for DVD's/Cd's..it's called NOW.....I've tried anything I've been able to download w/o a goofy message or corrupt...and tried to burn it to dvd...then gave up and put them on cd-r cd-rw next..

I even tried to make a copy of a movie I "borrowed" to make a "backup" copy...

didn't work....

So I figured there must be a trick to burning dvd's on the pc...

I also got a dvd/recorder with a vhs burner player combo...I haven't even opened it yet cause I wanted to master the copying from LW....


BtW...I've been reading about all these scams for paying for your site on LW...then i realized I paid for it too!!!!

I found a site called GETFlics...Lifetime membership was $38 with a $25 Best Buy gift card...I figuered $13 for lifetime is great...the review for this site (located across from the Empire State Blgd) was rated very high...I didnt know your site was free...

but now I see I think I was taken also since your site is free...

I went back to Kazaa before LW and was attacked by pop ups all over....had to remove the DL of kazaa...

LW is great if I can overcome the bogus ads hidden in the movies and clips....but by reading all these forums i'm learing about the size of files and tricks etc...

The music I will try later but should be simple...

Lord of the Rings January 12th, 2005 06:09 AM

Keep in mind that some of the material you downld is NTSC & some of it is PAL. In most cases the files you downld will need converting before burning. Personally I use Roxio Toast which does the conversion after I click the burn button. All I need to do is drop the movies into toast & press burn. But Toast is for Mac. For windows I believe the best ones are the most recent & full versions of both Roxio Easy CD & DVD Creator, & Nero. There's other apps out there than can do things for you. TMPGEnc is one video utility app which edits & allows you to burn disks & recognises most burners on the market. Some sites that you might find interesting are: http://www.videohelp.com/ & also http://www.videohelp.com/tools as well as http://forum.dvd-guides.com/

koufax07 January 12th, 2005 07:26 AM

burning dvd's
 
So this will do the trick versus other remedies?

TY..I'll try it when I get home...

koufax07 January 12th, 2005 08:11 AM

warez
 
Raaf...does this mean that this should not have been posted by him?
Or is there a chance if it's DL that he won't help me open it?

Lord of the Rings January 12th, 2005 04:05 PM

pm's can do wonders shhhh did I say that! I can be so dumb sometimes or ... lol :D

Lord of the Rings January 19th, 2005 04:46 PM

Don't worry about it. It was just an unsubtle way to bring the thread to my attention. lol :D I guess there's more than one way to do it! har har lol :D

It is in regards to some problems I needed to help out via pm.

koufax07 January 21st, 2005 07:20 AM

burning dvd's
 
Well I'm getting there...
I successfully burned 4 dvd+rw's of avi movies less than 700...I learned by accicdent what I was doing wrong w/the burnung on windows and the Sonic/Now

But.....now here's the problem....I went back later to check them out (after I verified that they were there) and they were gone!!!

Once these are burned onto dvd dont they stay there?

Or are they tied into LW?

Meaning if I erase the movie from LW....it wont play on the disc?

That's stupid....

That could lead me back to why they wont play on the dvd player unless the format is somehow wrong....

Lord of the Rings January 21st, 2005 07:42 AM

No that doesn't make sense.

As soon as you burn them, try them on your dvd player with your tv. And use your comp's dvd player to open directly from the disk. Don't open your player & choose previously played or else you won't be able to open it if you've deleted it.

fabion January 21st, 2005 09:40 AM

Well this might be silly But I have an almost new DELL that has a dvd rom drive and a dvd+rw dl. I have found through trial and error the media used to record on makes a big difference. I use nero ultra and generally have no problems. I have used roxio also and it does a good job. I found out after buying this machine that it was hard finding the best media to burn onto. I just found some new blank DVD media to record on, and I am now burning DVDs at 12X. Takes about 10 minutes to burn a dvd.

koufax07 January 21st, 2005 10:01 AM

burning dvd's
 
I did try them first to make sure they were burnt...everything was copied in about 1 minute....very fast...

Went in and previewed it...then did 3 more after that and previewed them...they were all there...

then disappeared....

I'm going to check them again....plus reburn them if I have to...

In reference to the previously played on the player....I never saw that anywhere...I just put the disc in and hit play..then it said it couldnt read the disc or disc was empty...

Now that it could be burned the right way...I'll have to double check on the tv if anything is there...will check tonight...

thanks...LOTR

Lord of the Rings January 21st, 2005 10:07 AM

Just like the original cd burners were like (& still are in some cases), each brand/model has prefered media for burning. Some do better with some brands. The best I've come across with wide-spread compatibility is Verbatim (it also plays on all set-top players.) Visit a dvd forum & you'll find out which brands are best suited to which brands of burners & also offer the best reliability to be played on most set-top players. (I wouldn't necessarily recommend burning at max speed though! That in itself can cause issues!)

Thanks fabion that's a very important point that's been forgotten here!

fabion January 21st, 2005 10:40 AM

That is true I wouldn't recommend burning at the max speed either. I ordered this machine specificaly for this type of work.
The new media I found was TEON it is using version 1.2 don't know what the difference is but it flys on this machine. My specialty is hardware not software. glad I could be of some help.;)

koufax07 January 24th, 2005 07:37 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
This is where I am at...

I spent the weekend reading all the manuals for the 2 dvd/recorders and the pc....wrote down all the compatible discs to use etc...

Okay I started over...
when I said before I burned 4 dvd'd w/movies...they didnt play on the tv...
here I found out that I burned them using windows Media player

Instead of sonic record now....so what i did was start over w/record now like i did way back when...

Here what i found out happened is that all the files i moved from the LW library to my documents....only could be picked up and burned by windows media player...

I tried everytrhing...trial and error...clicked on all the find,,,view,,,help,,,options...etc...nothing helped...

In short....If I can somehow get the files from the LW library to the sonic record now documents...or shared files...I can record from here....this has been the WHOLE problem...

Can anyone help?

Also I tried to burn again on the dvd+rw disc that had the windows media player burnt movies on them and it said "file corrupt...can't use...

so I threw them out...

Lord of the Rings January 24th, 2005 08:55 AM

1 Attachment(s)
RW's are rewriteable. Meaning that if you erase them with your compatible burner softw, you can use them again. I've never heard of wmp burning dvd's but then, I'm a mac person ... lol :D

Why don't you go to your LW downld folder: Library window, select Saved Files, & press the Explore button. This will open the folder up for you. Then drag & drop (or copy) the movie files to where you want them for burning & where sonic record now can easily find them.

Why not go to their website & check out FAQ & online tutorials: http://support.sonic.com/desktop/def...w&type=desktop

koufax07 January 24th, 2005 11:23 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
I will try that...

BTW...I know that the rw's can be burned over....

I always use a cd-rw or dvd+rw to burn onto them...then recopy onto a good disc...then if all editing ok...burn over it again....

it's great for music...I only used 1 cd-rw for about 25 discs i made...

that's why i mentioned that it came up on Sonic record now that it couldn't be cleaned or burned over....
it was weird...I tried to erase it all and it said no dice....

I threw 2 discs away...have 2 left ...i'll try to burn over them also...and see if I get the same results

TY...LOTR

Lord of the Rings January 24th, 2005 11:33 AM

Are you sure Sonic burn now can handle RW disks? Perhaps it doesn't have the ability to erase disks! You may need to have a specific dvd burner app for that. Sonic ... is a bundle of tricks, but perhaps its skills in burning & erasing are not as good as a regular disk burner app.

On my comp I have several apps that can erase disks. So if I had a problem with one app, I'd swap over to another.

DVD's are great for mp3's! They can fit just 'SO Much' music! And plus if the files are organised properly is a charm to use on a dvd player.

koufax07 January 24th, 2005 11:49 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
I read the manual when making my notes on all 3 of the culprets here...

yes I can erase on the pc using rw's...

I know i've burned over dvd+rw's before experimenting on Ka***

this really screwed me up...
the other thing ...on my old pc i had NERO...after I learned how to burn on there ...it was simple and fast....

now I have to start over...

I also went in (based on other recommendations on other threads) and went thru all of my settings...

I am on cable...everthing is set properly....
last night i cleared out some of my LW files....reset LW and I was working on excellent DL and they were DL as fast as they possibly could....

AMAZING!!!

Now all I have to do is solve the old burning movies problem...
it hasn't beaten me yet!!!
He Who Hesitates is Lost..... He Who Hesitates is Lost....

koufax07 January 25th, 2005 11:30 AM

burning dvd movies
 
Persistance Eventually Pays Off!!

Here we go!!!!!!!!

LOTR..I FINALLY got the movies burned on the dvd+rw's.....TY


But...........they look and sound great on the pc...

They still don't play on the TV/dvd player setup.....same message on the tv disc error cant read format....

My pc is recording on sonic Record Now and playing the dvd's back on Intervideo Win DVD 4...

I went thru every tutorial on the sonic help page...nothing...

my dvd player WILL play drd+rw's.....plus I reburned over them ...

no problemo there...

so we are almost home free....

is it possible to convert somehow to get this to play on the tv setup?

what if I was to reburn the dvd+rw onto a dvd+r or dvd-r? the dvd/player accepts both to play

would that work?

I need some thoughts here men...women...

we are getting close......


yeeeeeehaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!

Lord of the Rings January 25th, 2005 07:33 PM

Make sure when you burn your dvd you choose UDF format. Otherwise they will not play on tv. Sure they'll play on the computer. UDF is a must for set-top dvd players. UDF format is a choice of format to format the disk to just as audio format or vcd format or ISO 9660 format, etc. ;)

koufax07 January 26th, 2005 11:08 AM

UDF Format
 
Ok LOTR I looked everywhere.....I cannot find where this UDF format is located...

Are you saying i need to convert this somehow to get it on the TV?

So I would have the same problem if I burned this to a dvd+r or dvd-r?

We are close pal....

see what you can do for me on this...

TY

koufax07 January 26th, 2005 11:22 AM

UDF format follow up
 
I just di danother search....I found out in the dvd burning process the "DVD file system" is prest to ISO + Joliet + UDF and cannot be changed....

so thats not the problem then....

now what buddy?

Lord of the Rings January 26th, 2005 11:40 AM

Do you have any friends or relatives with new or newish dvd players. Try your disks out on theirs. It may be your particular player either isn't overkeen on the brand of media or isn't so keen on dvd-r/rw media or doesn't like the way your softw is burning/formatting it.

Yes all these things can play a part. Some players are touchy. Before I bought my player I tested a no. of my disks (different brands & dvd-/+/r/rw) out on them using 3 different dvd formatting & burner apps. I wanted to be sure I could get a player that could take what was thrown at it. In fact I took my original one back b/c I found it couldn't play ones burnt with a particular softw (so I obviously didn't test it out initially enough.) I do a lot of business with them plus I hold a trade card so I get things at trade price. I was a touch lucky I guess.

Try a different brand of media. What model of player do you have? What brand of media are you using?

Have you considered posting on either the http://www.videohelp.com/ forum or the http://forum.dvd-guides.com/ forum. No doubt there's also probably a forum for Sonic Now...

I use a mac & I don't know about the windows versions of dvd authoring & editing apps. So to try to work out your problem is a little difficult. I can only make comparisons to the types of issues you may come across.

koufax07 January 27th, 2005 03:59 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
Well today i'm going to buy both dvd-r and dvd+r discs...

They are supposedly compatible with both of my brand new dvd recorder/players....

I'm going to try and burn a movie on each from the dvd+rw and see what happens..

koufax07 January 31st, 2005 10:26 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
OK LOTR I'm back after working on this for the weekend...

Step 1...I checked both brand new DVDplayer recorders and there is no switch to convert....never heard of pal here...but I will check the remote menu...good idea...

Step 2... I reburned AND closed the dvd's ....onto dvd+r as per the dvd/player (can play these)...instructions...

All movies played very well on the pc as usual....
got the DISC ERROR on the tv again!!!!!

Sooooooooooo...back to square 1.....
I'm hoping between ALL these people having the same problem that if someone finds an answer to KINDLY let eveyone else know....

koufax07 February 2nd, 2005 08:15 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
Well LOTR....there is nothing on the menu of the dvd player to adjust to get these burns to play....

however I did get a burnt copy from a friend of mine ..burned his copy and it played on the tv /dvd player w/thw same discs i used to burn from LW

Lord of the Rings February 2nd, 2005 05:06 PM

Does he use the same burner & softw? I had a CD burner that didn't like being used below a particular speed. It took me many months to discover that & even the techs didn't discover that. So I got rid of it anyway. But that was a cd burner. Oh & it also didn't like some brands of disks. yuk!

koufax07 February 3rd, 2005 04:25 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
I will check and see if I can find out speed and disc make...the disc didnt have any writing other than the stamp of appproval on it...

I already reduced my taping speed from LW to get the movies to fit on the dvd..plus the clarity is better...actual it's pretty darn good on the pc...

I can't beleive no one is offering solutions to having this problem and solving it...

it must be a very easy solution...

fabion February 3rd, 2005 04:55 AM

greetings koufax07

No I don't think the solution is easy. I had sonic (notice past tense). I had problems with the program burning correctly. I attempted over the course of a month working with DELL & Sonic Tech support. Never did resolve the issue. I still have the software around here somewhere collecting dust. After getting nowhere with them. I switched to nero ultra and roxio. I mainly use nero now, but what nero can't handle roxio does.

Best of luck trying to resolve your problem. My issue was that sonic would never correctly recognize my DVD+RW DL, The problem was with the driver for the DVD+RW DL. When I switched software the problem went away.

koufax07 February 3rd, 2005 05:14 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
Well my " sonic now" records fast and is absolutely fanatastic...I also read where Roxio is also used w/this program...

The only problem is trying to play these on my tv dvd...I'm sure everyone is familiar w/this problem I'm having...

Anyway...I may try different discs based on what my friend's buddy tells me he used....

fabion February 3rd, 2005 05:28 AM

I use Teon DVD+R now. Got some on special somewhere. They allow me to burn at 12X. Only difference I saw than with the other brands I used is Teon uses version 1.2. I don't know what the difference is in versions, but there must be something.

BTW I wouldn't recommend burning at the max speed, as this may lead to problems within itself.

Best of luck. I look forward to seeing what the resolution of this problem is. It will probably help many others.

koufax07 February 3rd, 2005 06:12 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
Well as in my previous correspondence , thanks to LOTR, ...I reduced my speed in order to get the movies to fit the disc....

plus the clarity was much better...

so this has been done...

I have already read every thread in this discussion on this and we are getting nowhere as a group...


plod on...

koufax07 February 4th, 2005 10:01 AM

burning dvd's...movies
 
Well Fabion...you are the first one to actually explain how much trouble it is too put them on dvd to show on your tv/dvd player

it's not worth it unless there is an easier way...

I will pursue getting a big monitor to run them from the pc....

I will continue to monitor any progress on these threads about this matter...


Go New England Patriots!!!!!

fabion February 4th, 2005 09:53 PM

koufax07

:eek: I think you meant Peerless

koufax07 February 5th, 2005 06:03 AM

Sorry peerless
 
Now I can use the funny icon for the first time!!!


I had a phone call and got distracted when i was getting ready to respond...

Always give credit where credit due...

sorry....I will try the tv out now...

morcon October 21st, 2008 06:45 PM

When I try to create a video I get a message that I require sonic cine player decoder pack. What should I do?

Morcon

Remoc October 21st, 2008 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by morcon (Post 330457)
When I try to create a video I get a message that I require sonic cine player decoder pack. What should I do?

Morcon

Looks Like More BullSh!T Required for WMP. Yet Another Reason I will Never Use WMP.


DVD Decoder / CinePlayer DVD Decoder Pack


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