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heid1i June 21st, 2005 10:47 PM

Complaint
 
I am really disappointed in a download I have just made. I assumed, as the title read St*r W*rs Episode III R*venge of the S*th (FULL MOVIE), that that is what I would be downloading. I was digusted to find it was a porno!! How can this be allowed??? I wasted, not only my download capability for the month, but also a hell of a lot of time for an obscene result. I would like this investigated and also to receive a response as to how someone is allowed to title a pornographic video in this way.

ukbobboy01 June 21st, 2005 11:17 PM

Joke
 
Complaint:confused:?

This has got to be a joke. (Sounds like a school marm who has just realised that the world is not like it's shown on TV:( )

Heidi, you may need to do a little "growing up".

I_Have_No_Account June 21st, 2005 11:54 PM

Hey H31d13, I've just downloaded best_pr0n_3v3r111!!.avi but after watching it for an hour I realised that it isn't pr0n at all. Can you believe it??? It's actually Star Wars III...and HELL does it suck! No wait, there's no sucking at all and no penetration whatsoever. Just some huge laser dild0s or the like...and that g4y sh1t3 really doesn't turn me on at all.

So maybe we could exchange the files?

JenJenSweet June 30th, 2005 02:39 AM

Illicit/Illeagal
 
I wonder if Heidi is related to the guy that called the cops because his crack dealer ripped him off?

Billabong654 June 30th, 2005 04:57 PM

I said it before and I'll say it again.
BITZI!,BITZI!,BITZI!
If your not sure about a download bitzi it and if nothing comes up and your not sure,don't download it. Good Luck.

Lord of the Rings June 30th, 2005 05:25 PM

How to use Bitzi Web Lookup ... (click on link)

heid1i July 1st, 2005 12:48 AM

Re: Illicit/Illeagal
 
Instead of wasting my time, why don't you answer my question? I really don't care what ur thoughts are, I was looking for an intelligent accurate response. Ur just filling my inbox with stuff worth nothing more than a 'delete'.

heid1i July 1st, 2005 12:50 AM

At last! A decent response! Thanks for ur help!

heid1i July 1st, 2005 12:51 AM

Thankyou, thankyou, thankyou! I'm still a new user and wasn't familiar with Bitzi. Much appreciated!

heid1i July 1st, 2005 12:53 AM

Re: Re: Complaint
 
Gee, suppose since u got my message ur using this site as well??????

heid1i July 1st, 2005 12:54 AM

Re: Joke
 
No, not a school marm (?). Just someone who has better things to do than waste her time on porn. Guess u do!

heid1i July 1st, 2005 12:57 AM

In future, don't waste my time with ur useless responses. The way u word things speaks for itself. Prefer not to hear it. If u do, however, have an intelligent response to provide that actually answers my question, feel free to do so.

ukbobboy01 July 1st, 2005 06:10 AM

Intelligent Question
 
Dear heid1i

First, your initial questions were so stunningly naive that I, like others in this thread, fell about laughing, I just could not believe they were real questions.

Secondly, how on earth can you believe that the latest star wars film is available legally to download (it's not even out on DVD yet), if someone had put star wars on the internet the MPAA and George Lucas would close them down so fast their heads would spin.

Third, what do you want to investigate and who are you going to complain to? You seem not to realise that P2P networks are just a numerous collection of individual PCs and their users, there is no central control or authority. That is why there are lots of mislabled files, viruses, Trojans and all sorts of malware. You will have to smarten up very quickly if you want to keep your PC clean and get what you want from the system.

Follow this URL, it will explain things a lot better:

http://computer.howstuffworks.com/file-sharing.htm

Finally, from reading your post it seems obvious that you got your copy of LW from a scam site, you have bought into something that does not exist. LW is free, LW Pro costs just under $19.00, and that gets you six months worth of upgrades. There is no membership, no promise of unlimited music or films download, in fact, there is no promise of anything other than software that works. So, if the site you got LW from promised you all that and more then they lied and you threw your money away.



UK Bob

Lord of the Rings July 3rd, 2005 05:43 PM

Sorry heid1i for adding to your inbox. But for everybody who is confused to the multiple responses by heid1i by their-self, it was due to intimidation from a visitor who's posts have been deleted. I think you know who (IHNA)

More video hints: 1. Movie download issues, & 2. autogenerated spam results

ukbobboy01 July 4th, 2005 05:53 AM

We Got it Wrong
 
Dear bpmax

I have sent an e-mail to heid1i apologising for my part in this apparent lynching, I just hope that she can accept it and use my advice to get her money back.

However, I feel the thread would have been more directly helpful to heid1i if she was not the victim of intimidatory tactics. Using humour to make a point is one thing but harassing someone is totally different.

I now hope that we have seen the last of the bullying, intimidation and sheer offensiveness used to reply to posts in this forum.



UK Bob

JenJenSweet July 5th, 2005 02:23 AM

Scammed!
 
I got scammed...paid $50 with the entire impression that I would be able to LEGALLY download music. So I guess despite my previous comment I can't really blame Heidi. Hmmm..guess what? That bank charge is being disputed. Le sigh.

theproudlunatic July 5th, 2005 06:50 AM

me thinks me has a legit gripe....99% of what im trying to DL are ''awaiting sources''.....pre purchase LW,i never encountered such a ratio.....now let me be the 1st to admit to my greed!!!!!i currently have id say 300 items waiting......is there a hazzard to having X amount of files waiting?!?!(pls say no,pls say no,pls say no-ad nauseam)i just cant help it dambit!!!!!!!i have many titles in mind that i dont trust to memory so i search,scan,dl.......so in closing,how can i speed up the awaiting process?btw,you people,especially the sarcastic ones,fncking ROCK!

Lord of the Rings July 5th, 2005 08:51 AM

Getting greedy!?! Yeah it can get a bit like that. lol :D But choosing to downld more than your bandwidth can handle at one time is definitely going to leave you with files that don't connect at that time. Some great hints & xtra search & downld hints can be obtained from here: To continue files downlding (click on link) & check out "ALL" the off-shoot links. That's where you might find some very handy pointers.

theproudlunatic July 5th, 2005 08:25 PM

did i mention you guys/gals fncking rock?

flossy July 5th, 2005 10:24 PM

Re: Re: Illicit/Illeagal
 
Quote:

Originally posted by heid1i
Instead of wasting my time, why don't you answer my question? I really don't care what ur thoughts are, I was looking for an intelligent accurate response. Ur just filling my inbox with stuff worth nothing more than a 'delete'.


I know how you fell i went to download batman begins to and soon found out that it was a porno two iam not very happy about it i think something should be done i was going to put it on for my kids when i realised that it was a porno

JenJenSweet July 5th, 2005 11:41 PM

Batman Begins/Star Wars
 
I guess what you need to be aware of is that it is ILLEGAL to download anything that is copyrighted unless you have paid for it at the appropriate location. Newly released movies will not be legally available until after they are released on video, and even then, I don't know where you would be able to purchase one. Unfortunetly, some unreputable people will sell you p2p programs (which is what limeware is) and give you the impression that you will be able to legally download copyrighted material. If you go back and review your reciept or download agreement, you will find that it never once specifies that you may do so. It bites...but there it is.

ukbobboy01 July 6th, 2005 01:26 AM

Dear JenJenSweet

You have summed up the scam business in a nutshell, i.e. it preys on the ignorance of newbies and then slickly parts them from their money.

However, most of them do not sell you a P2P program they just give you a URL link to the proper download site, thus costing them nothing at all.

Flossy, like all the other people who realise they have been scammed, want something done about the scammers. But I would say this to Flossy and the rest, no one forced you to go to the scam sites, no one pushed you to give them your money and certainly no one told you to stop using your common sense. And common sense says, "if something is too good to be true then it probably is"

Simply put, it is time for newbies to take responsibility for their actions and stop looking for other people to blame. If half the newbies took a time out and thought about what they were doing before giving their money away to scammers then scamming wouldn't be the big "money for nothing" business it is today.




UK Bob

JenJenSweet July 6th, 2005 01:54 AM

Newbies Bein' Scammed
 
I am a newbie. But I didn't realize how naive I was. I actually Googled the company that scanned me and felt reassured when they didn't pop up except under their own web site. Lesson learned? A good company will have mostly positive but mixed reviews. If nothing pops up? Do more research. Learn more. There isn't one thing out there that escapes criticism, including God and the bible. If there is no negative review....it's probably a shiny new company.

lassie July 6th, 2005 02:37 AM

I suppose heid1i's post, stunning in its ignorance (no offence heid1i) just shows how main-stream p2p is spreading. It seems as though many peoples 1st use of a pc is p2p.

nice post ukbobby01

NOT bill gates possession July 7th, 2005 03:14 PM

Forum purpose??
 
Interesting how the exclusive "good ol' boys" club has become the exclusive "good ol' geeks club"... Like heid1i, I also am a beginner, and thought this forum was about sharing knowledge and building the strength of the network/community. It seems to me that her intelligence level has little to do with it; only her experience level.

Also seems that nearly all the responses were tantamount to saying "if you aren't one of "us", you don't have any place here, and have no right to be online at all", and "let's deride the outsider".

Come on guys, all that was required was to give a few lines of basic information! Do you want to propagate the network, or just keep it in the club?

My own level of experience and knowledge is somewhat higher than her's, but I still have A LOT to learn. I was wanting to ask some questions myself, but having read this thread (and a few others similar), maybe I should just look elsewhere (and keep my files of collected rare and out of print/copyrite music to myself?)...

I'm an artist by proffession, and if artists had these attitudes, there wouldn't be any arts left (and yeah, that includes music and film). We all have to learn EVERYTHING somewhere, somehow, and if those with knowledge won't share it, they shouldn't blame the still ignorant/naive for propogating scam sites.

Lord of the Rings July 7th, 2005 03:50 PM

Well I saw that video at Crown which I'm sure heid1i would be aware of. Since this video was still at cinemas & is not on dvd. It's likely that such an offer was from either a stolen copy from the processing room of the studios or else, someone walking into the cinema with a video-cam. It's a good idea to Bitzi search to get feedback or at least preview a video as its downlding. That way you definitely know what you're getting! ;)

I wasn't sure why everybody jumped on the bandwagon of 'must be a scam version of LW' offering videos, ... this might not necessarily have been the case. And since heid1i hasn't responded to the later posts it's hard to know. I do feel that despite an easy to make mistake about talking about copyright material ... they have put up with a lot in this thread .. including intimidation from a visitor. Let's await heid1i's response. I'm sure heid1i has learnt about the forum rules & any chance that she got LW from the wrong place.

By the way heid1i if you were interested in the other parts of the series let us know. I have my own commercially 'purchased' copies! And the bombers got no chance to get in the finals this year. lol :D :p

ukbobboy01 July 8th, 2005 12:56 AM

heid1i
 
Dear LOTR

I have received a personal email from heid1i and, from what she has said, she did get her copy of LW from the wrong place, i.e. she was scammed.


Dear Not Bill

Although this thread looks as if it is taking a "pop" at heid1i that is certainly not the overall case. Although I originally started to poke fun at heid1i, I was unaware that she was also the target of intimidation by a very unpleasant guest of this forum. As soon as LOTR made that clear, and that he deleted the offensive post before most of us could see it, I wrote a personal email of apology and offered advice on what heid1i should do to get her money back.

This forum is definately not a "if you aren't one of us" club it is for everybody that want to share their experiences of using LW.




UK Bob


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