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Emvee August 24th, 2005 09:21 AM

871.5kb files
 
theres an awful lot of files i find in limewire that are 871.5kb,am i missing something?are they encrypted files??or just lots of fake files that are the exact same size??:(

Only A Hobo August 24th, 2005 10:09 AM

go to search above right search for 871.5 and needless to say don't download them

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 25th, 2005 05:21 PM

Was going to start new thread here, (after not posting in quite some time!) - regarding this and asking for the same input/help.

I'm finding similar files, 765k or 399.5. What I have been doing is banning the hosts carrying that file, which may or may not be foolish. I figure if they're carrying "crap," then why take the chance on them at all.

Does anyone have a definitive list of these files (104, 765, 399 and the above mentioned size) - to steer clear of?

Incidentally 4.9.28 is fantastic - just recently re-subscribed and upgraded from 3.8.5 - what an amazing program. Now if I can just "cleverly" filter out the junk . . . . I have had two virus "sirens" go off (which never happened before) - and believe that there is more malicious stuff out there now than ever before. Some of you are saying "DUH!" - but it's news to me!

Cheers and thanks in advance./p

Sphinx August 26th, 2005 08:04 PM

If the file size does not look right to you then its a virus. This will comeup alot if you are searching for software & movies. Its a junk file. Use a virus protection program when downloading off P2P. Software & movie files are extremely large to download and you shouldnt get this type of file if you're just searching for music under audio.

Wikedjuggalo August 26th, 2005 08:17 PM

Scanned it IT IS A Worm Do not Download it Scanned it and it can be Harmful just Telling People.......... Go to Www.Download.com and Search Virus there is a Free Version of AVG... has Picked up it and Work well with p2p programs... Detects Very Well

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 27th, 2005 12:45 AM

Thanks to both of you. Yes, AVAST! screams off a loud bell and I do not move it to the "chest" for deletion - I instead delete to trash and then manually WIPE the file with 35 overwrites.

I have under "filters" put ".exe," as one would be foolish to download an executable. I also right-click ALL files in shared folder from time to time (or upon download) and scan manually with AVAST! despite the fact that they're "checked automatically" upon download.

Another safeguard (for me - perhaps not for everyone) - is find the host of such files and not only block that particular address - but find others starting with the same number, and block THEM ALL - for example:
xx.*.*.* -- that seems to eliminate many of them. You also cut down search results that way - but who cares if the "results" were worms?

Thanks again - both of you - cheers and happy Limewiring!/p

Sphinx August 27th, 2005 09:33 PM

Its a well known virus/worm whatever that has flooded the Gnutella network and is choaking it in my opinion. Avoid it at all costs. Never dl anything that is this size. Think bigger when dling off P2P.

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 27th, 2005 10:48 PM

SPHINX: would you recommend that anytime you see an ISP address affiliated with this (or these) files - you block them entirely? It would reduce selection - but would also reduce risk, no?

I know I've virtually eliminated the "104k" version and have pretty much eliminated "from view) the other two I mentioned.

Your thoughts would be very welcome!

Sphinx August 27th, 2005 11:05 PM

to be honest, Im so used to recognizing the viruses/worms ect that it doesnt bother me. I bypass em. you can block em but that kinda would limit the hosts? even tho those hosts are probably fake hosts. Im no expert by any means, I just know from experience how to avoid the junk files. I rarely come up with em as I basically just search for music and have never blocked any host, I just try to filterout the junk as much as possible.

Dagam3 August 27th, 2005 11:34 PM

OK now... my list of blocked IP's is over 200... Every time I search and in my seaches appears something like that and when I select the file my "browse host" button isn't enabled than I just block most of them...

But you know.. there could be some onest people who may be infected... and if I can browse them and see what other files they have then I don't block them...

Sphinx August 27th, 2005 11:48 PM

The ones that seem to have the viruses worms from what Ive come across are mostly the T3 or the T1s and higher connections thats why I try to stick to fellow cable users for downloads. I try to filter those out and I also avoid modem users as they can have zip files with viruses in em too. those higher up connections out instead of blockign em. im not a geek so I dont want to spend too much time fussing with my settings. ;)

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 28th, 2005 12:46 AM

Thanks to all of you. I see the same starting ISP# (66,67,24 and 10) - when I "mouse hover" over suspicious (or proven downright bad) files . . . so I use the following host filters (and YES, they are mainly T1/T3s!):

10.*.*.*
24.*.*.*
66.*.*.*
67.*.*.*

This is becuase SO MANY bad files (dozens or hundreds of results) always point to some variation of above ISPs. Those 4 filters seem to cut out a lot, as well as keywords:

.exe
AWESOME
PLEASE SHARE

I hadn't thought of the innocent being infected and thereby killing potential "good sources" -- I'll try and start "bypassing" rather than willy-nilly blocking of more and more hosts.

Thanks - VERY much appreciated /p

banmicrosofttoo August 28th, 2005 12:49 AM

(10,24,66, 67).*.*.* = all .US broadband.
:rolleyes:


theres more to gain from a person offering infected programs on peer to peer than someone offering something clean for free.

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 28th, 2005 12:54 AM

INTERESTING! You know, I read that 5 times and I'm still not quite sure I understand it. Anyway, I'd have thought it was some "far away place full of nasties."

Shows you how little I know - in some ways I guess it is! At least . . . with regard to the FREAKS who didn't get any dates in High School . . . who now enjoy screwing up people's computers due to some warped sense of accomplishment. These little nasties don't flash an ad or put a casino button on the screen or your folders. They outright shut the machine down with a blue screen. Some are headed off by your A/V and others just shut down the PC my hovering the mouse over them or right clicking to delete them. If anyone has had this, PM/email me. I have some secret weapons to eliminate them - but would rather not share them here in case the "nasties" are reading.

Thanks, banmicrosofttoo -

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 28th, 2005 12:19 PM

Just had a thought - wouldn't it be great if the Limewire Filtering option included the ability to screen/filter by file size?!

Hope the developers read this - simple size blocking would eliminate the need to erhaps falsely block entire hosts or groups of hosts. Above file sizes blocked, and future ones users find to be "nasty" -- otherwise allowing files as usual!

ultracross August 28th, 2005 12:51 PM

the 10.*.*.* ip allocation space is reserved for private use and is not routable. my lan network actually uses it :)

Sphinx August 28th, 2005 01:10 PM

Quote:

Just had a thought - wouldn't it be great if the Limewire Filtering option included the ability to screen/filter by file size?!
I dont think any P2P app can filterout the 'size' of a file, only the users can and most users are lazy and never cleanout their junk files and or just love to leave the viruses in so they can zap a few newbies that dont know any better.

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 01:12 PM

:D :D :D It can... and may be this will be a feature of LW...... hope so.....

Sphinx August 28th, 2005 01:19 PM

would like to see how???? If it was that simple then Gnutella would be spared of the crap files that people like to leave in their folders. the only way would to to hide it as far as I can see and somehow I cant imagine a P2P going through all that trouble. ;)

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 28th, 2005 09:14 PM

Well, color me "dumb," but if you can filter as part of the file TEXT description "please share," or ".exe," couldn't you also filter "399.5" or "865?"

I guess the size is not PART of the description or "title," at least as it stands now - but if you can PREVIEW a file before it's even finished, there should be some "lookahead" mechanism that could "lookahead and check size?"

Here's hoping!

Sphinx August 28th, 2005 09:21 PM

welp in all my years of using P2P I have yet to see an app that could filterout the 'size' of a file, only the extensions.

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 09:32 PM

I'll quicly explain to you:

1. Every filter is a set of rulles.
2. Every file has a set of attributes (one of them is the name, one is the extension, one is the size, and so on...)
3. Rulles can be/are made from a set of file attributes.

So we have:
File attributes -> Rulles -> Filter.

Simple?

And by the way there are p2p progs who can filter files by size. Keep on looking ;)

Sphinx August 28th, 2005 09:46 PM

alright stupid question: whats the diff in either filtering out the extension or just the size??? Wouldnt it do the samething? the only proggys I have ever used is bearshare lite and Limewire, tried afew new ones but couldnt stand em for long heh.

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 09:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sphinx
alright stupid question: whats the diff in either filtering out the extension or just the size??? Wouldnt it do the samething?
example:
file.exe - 2 MB
file.avi - 700 MB

exe, avi - extensions (attribute)
2 MB , 700 MB - sizes (attribute)
file,file - name (attribute)

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 10:03 PM

1 Attachment(s)
Take a look at this program search box when searching for audio files:

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 10:06 PM

1 Attachment(s)
and here is LimeWire:

Sphinx August 28th, 2005 10:10 PM

oh ok I see what you mean, the size. I never have paid attention to that when I search I type in song title and author for music. Rarely do I fill out the entire search box.

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 10:21 PM

Hey man... but you said it...:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sphinx
I dont think any P2P app can filterout the 'size' of a file, only the users can and (...)
and now...:
Quote:

Originally posted by Sphinx
oh ok I see what you mean, the size. I never have paid attention to that (...)
Hey man I think I'm gonna die :D :D

Sphinx August 28th, 2005 10:35 PM

I dont use drop down boxes when I search. and it Still doesnt make a diff. virues and junk files will always be apart of P2P whether you can filter em by extensions or size, meh. Like I said previously, Im used to spotting a junk file a mile away and thats more important than filters ect. Personally Id rather see the search comeup, I dont believe in limits. :p

Dagam3 August 28th, 2005 10:43 PM

FILTERS
 
If there wasn't the filters than you wouldn't be able to search anything at all !!!

The word "search" will have no meaning...

banmicrosofttoo August 29th, 2005 02:01 AM

i'd just avoid downloading executables. i wish limewire had that feature in it, so people wouldn't accidentally download .com, .pif, .scr, .exe, .vbs, .bat, etc because what is the reason sharing the most popular abused file formats on the network?

PaulLimewireFan2003 August 29th, 2005 11:26 AM

banmicrosofttoo:
You're right. It goes without saying (;robably) that you CAN filter easily - I just enter ".exe" in the filters/text area - and I never SEE a SINGLE .exe.

The standard thinking was always "don't download executables," and Limewire even pops up a warning - but it seems now the biggest problem is these damn zips/rars. I imagine they're inherently "safer," since they might not "self extract," - whereas an executable could/would. But filtering both would be great, if you could attach a size parameter (allow all BUT) to ANY type file we knew as a community was "bad."

Sphinx August 29th, 2005 09:25 PM

I just wish Gnutella was an open network for music like Napster used to be then we wouldnt have to worry about viruses/worms or the junk files people stick in it. Virues cant be helped. Users put them there not Limewire. I simply filterout what I dont want, and all fileters do is hide the files, it doesnt make then disappear from the network. so to fuss over it is a waste of time in my opinion. If you see the size of the file is not right then avoid it.;)

Dagam3 August 29th, 2005 09:50 PM

OK Sphinx in the end I think you are right... :o

Sphinx August 29th, 2005 10:03 PM

ok heres a brain teaser then: what about the bigger files that are infested with a virus? how would you filter those out by size? any exe can contain a virus or a zip file of any size or extension. Yes, I know we need filters to search.

Remember the I Love You Virus? A simple viruses embedded in an image file that cause destruction across the web.

Trojans/worms/viruses oh my.

Nothing a P2P app can really do about them. in the end it still boils down the users that put them there. New users get hit because they dont know any better. They see a file they want and automatically down load it.

This one is easy to spot but the bigger ones arent unless you scan before downloading. :D

Dagam3 August 29th, 2005 10:13 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sphinx
(...)This one is easy to spot but the bigger ones arent unless you scan before downloading. :D
Your right... I think this should be a feature of LW specialy for newbies... :D :D :D

jmbjrpcmp2004 August 30th, 2005 04:56 PM

yeah, the ones that i'm having problems with are 851.7kb files....kinda odd that there is just two numbers switched, huh???? maybe this is another to look out for

Sphinx August 31st, 2005 10:40 PM

Quote:

yeah, the ones that i'm having problems with are 851.7kb files....kinda odd that there is just two numbers switched, huh???? maybe this is another to look out for
yep, the onething to do is to avoid em.


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