child porn
 

I am a relatively new user of limewire and generally appreciate the possibilities of this network very much. There is just but one things that bothers me very much. I am not against porn in general - to each his/her own. But when it comes to child porn I can get very angry! Within this network there exists a lot of that and I cannot understand that there is not a single control mechanism to prevent pedophiles from putting their stuff in here. Free speech and uncontrolled webcontents - fine, but I think there should be a limit, no? This post is also very much addressed to the people that are responsible for the contents here.

You can turn off the option to monitor incoming searches.

But I have a better idea for dealing with the pedophiles, if anyone has some free time and video editing software.

Start making video files including one of two things:
- Documentaries about child abuse, interviews with rape survivors, etc.
- Anything disgusting (but not the kind of thing people would get off on). Like surgery shows from the Discovery channel or shows about people who eat insects.

Make really, really large video files, and give them titles like "Hot blond Lolita **** ****! Real kiddie porn! No kidding!"

I'd like to see the same done to all those sick f*cks looking for rape videos, too. Since I can't actually track them down and shoot them.

if your talking about the "incoming search" box above your "uploads" on the monitor tab than you have 2 very easy options:

1) if each box is taking up half your screen, look for the little check mark under "incoming search" and uncheck the box, you will no longer monitor incoming search feeds

personally i rarely leave it on, i only turn it on once in a while if i cant think of anything to search for, than shut it off to read part of the list, since you can click on another persons search to activate your own, other than that all it does is spam you, so just shut it off

2) your other option is to remove the window from view completely

in the center of the monitor page you will see a small thin line seperating the 2 boxes, on the left hand side you should see 2 small arrows, clicking the arrows will readjust which windows your viewing. the arrows will move to either the top of bottom when you click them and shut off one or the other box. with the arrows in the middle you are viewing both monitor screens.

the arrows also work on the search page in the same way to adjust the viewable size of either the search or download boxes
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beyond adjusting what you view there is little that can be done to directly stop child porn on this network. the simple reality is that 90% of the content on this system is not legal. including most music, movies, videos etc

if they began monitoring and restricting access to what can and cannot be used on this network they would need to stop all illegal activity not just filter out what is and is not tasteful

not that im trying to advocate child porn, but its no more legal than downloading copyrighted songs and other material

hey just a tip i personally download a stack of porn at once, i filter out the kiddy porn as best as possible now that i've accidently downloaded a few, which have been deleted and the ip's i got them from reported to the fbi, however when downloading a mpg movie you can preview it so putting "sick stuff" wouldnt matter, plus i would be willing to wager most pedophiles delete non pedo stuff so the file wouldnt be spread much and honestly do you think someone who likes child sex would really care if they saw someone eating insects? i doubt it... best thing to do is to simply filter out the stuff, if you accidently get one delete it (im sure the FBI is watching by now) an even better idea would be not to download porn or to monitor it so you can see for sure its what you want and kill it if its kids. Best thing i can reccomend to ya is avoid it, the enabled box in the monitor tab should not be checked (that way you dont see the searches) or use the up and down arrows to move the upload screen higher... that should work too.

Hopefully the FBI or whoever else is watching will get these ppl

re:child porn
 

I think it is easy to make a filter for it, just let the app filter files containing "child+porn" "kid+porn" etc etc etc... and it will be easy to BAN the people who offers this sick **** from the entire network.

So i question myself why the good people off the limewire app & the gnutella network already did this...

-L66

I think it's probably something like why Ebay won't edit or remove feedback comments: once you edit something at all, you then become responsible for all the rest of the content.

So if LW filtered some of it and then missed a file, they'd be open to being sued.

I wish there were an answer. I sure don't like seeing that stuff either. It's really terribly sad how many people there are out there who download all that kiddie stuff and rape stuff...makes me glad I don't have children.

unfortunetly pedophiles don't have guilt about there "job" and are very sick individuals though they are hard to identify since anyone can be a pedophile and there is no known cure

Sick!!!!!!!
 

This is sick, someone downloading pictures of nude childrens. That is very sick, someone with a sick mind doing putting these pictures out so others can download. SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE DONE. I see in the monitor what others are downloading and , there is a list of movies of Child Pornography. JUST SICK!!!

Hmmm, yeah I hear y'all loud and clear. I'm not against being liberal, nor am I against being all so moral about things. But like there are people who won't mind hardcore porn being shared, so are there people who won't mind beastiality, torture, rape, and yes, lolita materials. As long as there's demand for them, there'll be someone who'll suply. Sickening perhaps, nevertheless reality.

The difference between ordinary (!) porn and underaged material is that the latter is illegal!! You WILL be arrested for possessing, let alone sharing such files. So if you want, we can get serious and "police" them out of LW community.

But hey, the police just might come for all of us. So whatcha gonna du?

I'm curious, though, are all those files really "lolita" materials using kid of age under 12? Nevermind, not my cuppa tea.

I want LimeWire to have an option during setup to filter this crap out. Then you won't see anything like that come through anyplace, even if you don't have filters. After all, to use the filters, you have to type in that sick language, so your kids will see that in the filter box! Maybe put a checkbox to filter out this junk, but in order to uncheck it again, you would have to give a password. What do you think of that? I am going to make my own release of LimeWire, so let me know what you want.

Controls / Filters in Gnutella?
 

There are several points to make here:

1. From my discussions with other Gnutellians, it seems to be quite common for new users of Gnutella to start with searches for all the most extreme, illegal files they can think of. In the vast majority of cases, the novelty of the really nasty stuff quickly wears off.

2. Any type of filter would be very difficult to implement, since a wide variety of keywords are used for child porn, for example.

3. As almost 100% of Gnutella users have at some point downloaded pirated music, videos and software, access to the moral high ground is a very steep and windy path. If you were going to apply filters to child porn or snuff movies you would also need to filter out other illegal material or be accused of double standards.

4. The problem is the demand not the supply. Censorship, whether you're in favour or not, is no longer a viable option. With modern technology, wherever there is demand there will be a supply. Hackers, pornographers and Co. will always , by definition, be ten steps ahead of the authorities as a change in official policy requires:
-A period of study
-The filing of a report
-The approval of a plan of action and budget
-The necessary training
-The purchase of any required equipment
All this before the change can be implemented, by which time the crooks are in another league.

5. For me a truly unrestricted net like Gnutella with no institutional or commercial controls like in all the major portals on the WWW is vital for the Internet. The presence of distesteful material is the perhaps the price we have to pay. The only option is self-censorship and to put democratic pressure (through forums like this one or through client chats) on people who distribute this material.

I completely agree that an option to filter out all adult content at setup in Limewire would be very useful , and essential if the software is going to be used by kids. The quickest solutionwould be password-lockng the options so that they (especially the filters page) can only be viewed and edited by entering a code.

Unfortunately, those who post adult material use a wide variety of keywords to make it easy to find and Limewire still regularly returns erroneous search results so porn is still going to crop up whatever filters you put in place. For example, I tried a search for 'Mariah Carey' with a number of filters in place and still got back a few references to XXX videos/photos.

A limit is a control, you can't have both, you need to choose which is more important, freedom or control.

thank u
 

realy i m sorry to be that lazy and not to post here so i d like to thank u a lot and say u are great

first tyciol drags this out of the ancient past with a semi-coherent post, and now you make this post....sheshus...

now that's an understatement to say the least...you're sorry all right...a sorry excuse for a human being...

That's the problem.
 

Which is to be? Who chooses? Once you allow control they will want to control all of it and I assure you they will have absolutely good reasons to limit what they want limited.

Terrorism? Better control dissent. Anti government? Can't have that either. Marijuana? Heaven forbid.

Organize a demonstration about Tibet while in China? Oh no need to control that. Bejing has already done that. If you think you're not next you're really wrong my friend.

Just as a reality check here, I doubt there's any child porn on Limewire. Posters use suggestive text in the titles to lure people in, but as far as I can tell (as I've checked in on a number of occasions) the actual contents are always legal.

You are correct in my opinion kepella in your judgement of probably 99% of the texts. Unfortunately the 1% or less actually is what it perports to be. Recent on-line articles I've read tell me that the authorities are concentrating their efforts on people who upload. If you download something delete it from the machine and it won't be in your shared library.

i see all this stuff as well
it bothers me

you people need a reality check....the materials are not on LimeWire, they are on the gnutella network....hosted by people who have them on their own computers and have chosen to share them...they might be using LW, BS, Phex, or any other gnutella client...

ok bye

Idarshane
 

He says that with every Post but keeps coming back.

I think he's kidding. ;) Or forgot what his signature says.