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El Diablo September 7th, 2005 04:00 PM

How do I chat?
 
I have the free limewire and whenever some one is downloading off me It says that I can chat to them, but I cant for the life of me work out how!
NE1?

PS- download El Diablo Dnb mix 02:09:05

Only A Hobo September 7th, 2005 04:19 PM

You right click on the download and click chat to host. yes ... Don't tell me! I expect you've done that already, and found nothing happens. Very rarely do you even get a dialogue box, which should pop up. You may start typing in it and see a message: host unavailable .. before you have even sent it. Rarely you might even send a message, but the host at the other end may be nowhere near his computer for hours so may not see the message. In short no one bothers much with chat because it is so unreliable. If you manage to have a two way chat, consider yourself lucky.

hopefully limewire will develop a chat feature that works properly, not for lengthy sessions, which can be done on iChat, msn and the like, but just for short notes, which would greatly help stop the spreading of bad and mis-labelled files etc.

LeonMcS September 7th, 2005 04:41 PM

Of the twenty or so people I have contacted on chat to tell them they were dloading dud files, only one has ever responded. Most people aren't interested but if I find I've dl a corrupt or misleading file and someone is dl it from me I'll try and drop them a line as a courtesy.

Only A Hobo September 7th, 2005 05:37 PM

Leon, I think it is unfair to say they are not interested ... I have once or twce found a message which was sent to me perhaps a couple of hours before, and not been able to respond, either because the host had gone offline or Chat had come to a halt ... The point is I would have liked to respond, but a/. I was away from the computer when the message was sent, and b/. I dont know for sure if a reply would have got through.

It is so importand to get the messages you are talking about out to the network, and Chat, as is, does not cut the mustard (good expression that what the &^*& does it mean? :D

6_pac September 7th, 2005 09:14 PM

Quote:

does not cut the mustard (good expression that what the &^*& does it mean?
I don't know but think it's simmilar to cutting the cheeze but without the smell. lol:)

Grandpa September 7th, 2005 09:32 PM

I have had people try and chat with me several times and been sitting at the computer when they tried. I have tried to reply and only once did it work. But I just have one dumb question if you have a file that you know to bad why don't you either delete it or move it out of your share file. If every body would remove files they new to be bad there would be allot less them out there.

I myself check every file I download I move them to another folder until they are checked. If they are not good I will try to repair them if I can not repair them I delete them. If I was able to repair them they go to my share file. Please anybody that has a file they know to be bad take them out of your share folder and help the network out.

LeonMcS September 7th, 2005 11:15 PM

I stand corrected on the chat issue.
Regarding dud files, of course i always delete them but at one stage I couldn't if they were being dl'd. None of the video I was dl would preview with any of my players so I usually had to wait until it was complete. That has been fixed by installing the VLC player. Thanks to Lord who recommended it in an earlier thread.

Grandpa September 10th, 2005 08:56 PM

Under tools/options/uploads/basic you can disable sharing partial files.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 12:46 AM

Grandpa said: " you can disable sharing partial files"......

Can some one give me a good reason why saring partial files is even an option?:confused: :confused:

Grandpa September 11th, 2005 01:42 PM

Have no Idea, in my oppinion it is only good for spreading bad files

mtntravler September 11th, 2005 01:56 PM

Disable partial files
 
From what I've heard, allowing parially downloaded files makes it faster for people to download them. Since the file in it's entirety is out there, you can connect with the host who has the entire file, then connect with hosts who have the partial file. The portion of the file from the partial file sharer will download that much faster. So it's actually good to allow partial file sharing in most cases.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 02:09 PM

hmmm ... interesting I still feel it can lead to bad files ... most of my incompletes stay that way for weeks....being mostly somewhat obscure.... good food for thought.

mtntravler September 11th, 2005 02:57 PM

Hey, It' only what I've heard. It sounds good in theory, but yet to be proven to me. It was in a file I downloaded a long time ago entitled "how to make Limewire faster." It made a lot of sense, but for all I know, it could have been put out by someone who also shares viruses and/or spam.

stief September 11th, 2005 03:32 PM

mtntravler, you're right about partial sharing: it is indeed a very good thing.

Like Bittorrent, Partial File Sharing allows many hosts to share the pieces they already have even before they have the complete file, and thus take the load off the original supplier.

A tremendous amount of work has gone into making PFS and the "download mesh" work well so that large files especially can get distributed quickly.

At one time there were corruption issues, but then the developers and opensource coders implemented THEX, which allowed the verification of even very small chunks of the file. If you watch your uploads in the monitor pane, you'll often see early in the upload "uploading hash tree" (THEX). PFS at work :)


In short, PFS is a key reason many downloads can complete so quickly.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 03:47 PM

OK You've both convinced me!! :)

Grandpa September 11th, 2005 03:51 PM

While it may make getting files faster at what cost should be taken into consideration. If it just flooding the network with bad files what good is it.

Only A Hobo September 11th, 2005 04:13 PM

hmmm there are 2 sides to this aren't there!

personally I do like to check out files before re-sharing them and one springs to mind which I'd like to mention .... but won't .... just to say it is a bootleg album, which as I understand it was made as an experiment specifically for p2p networks which claimed (entirely without foundation) to be an unreleased official album. I downloaded it a while back as an mp3 and it is now all over LW, ostensibly as a video of something rather different. It is still however the same old audio album. nothing sinister about it btw. :confused:

ultracross September 11th, 2005 05:13 PM

partial files do not return results, so you should never beable to see them in a search unless someone moves them into the shared dir.

Grandpa September 11th, 2005 10:21 PM

ultracross

Unless I am mistaken when you are DL a file it is black in you incoming folder while the rest are red. If I do not have LW set to disallow partial files the black files will show they are being UL to other members in the UL collum. Does this not mean they are being shared and is not LW default setting to share incomplete files.

paulflute September 15th, 2005 02:27 PM

chat on mac
 
Hi there hobo....

Just wondering how i access chat on a mac that has now right click....
I here that it's not great be would be nice to try sometimes.....
cheers paul.....

Only A Hobo September 15th, 2005 02:47 PM

Paul ... Hi ... I think what you're saying is how do I right click on a mac? ... quite simply I use a Windows mouse with USB and plug it in to the keyboard no software needed. Ctrl click is too much like hard work! The scroll wheel works too. I think the new Mac Mighty Mouse does all this and more.

As for getting chat to work properly. I know it works if both participants want it to and .... until you mess it up by clicking on block host instead of send which some idiot has done not to long ago :D:D

paulflute September 15th, 2005 02:56 PM

ta.!
 
Thanks for that.....
I'm quite new to Limewire but very new to Mac and didn't even know about control and click..... look forward to exploring.....
have been enjoying sharing so much music of late. great fun........

Cheers paul.....


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