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Limwire Is Crap Can't download a thing - paid £20 to download some games have tried dozens of files none of them work, not free and not good - rip off |
Limewire is FREE. The Basic version is FREE, & the pro versin costs $18.88 but only if you get it from the official LW site: http://www.limewire.com/english/content/download.shtml Perhaps you should see Membership? - *WARNING*BEWARE** - Download p2p Clients ONLY Thru Official Sites |
I don't mind paying for it if it would actually work - its a piece of shite ! |
It's not the program that's the problem. This year in particular has seen a lot of virii & auto-generated spam & corrupt mp3 files being put onto the Gnutella network. This not only affects LW, but affects all other gnutella programs ... & there's a lot of them. FrostWire, Phex, Qtella, Shareaza, Bearshare, Morpheus, Gnucleus, & a long list of others. Learning to identify what you're after, the size it should be & how to avoid the bad files (including games that are incomplete) will help you to find what you're after. And this is now something we all must learn to cope with. BTW I answered your other thread, but it's now in the Upload/Downld problems section where it should be. |
Lord of the rings posted a reply to you the same moment you sent the first message in this thread. Clearly you have not read that reply Now do you want help or do you want to sling abuse. Please read the links Lord Of The Rings has given you in both threads (well maybe not ALL "Warning Beware":), before posting another mouseful of abuse. |
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I never said you were a geek! You said: " I've lost 2 evenings trying to do what the site advised me would take "minutes" Here I think is the heart of the problem. What site was that? I believe you have gone to a site which has promised you all sorts of amazing things, including games you could play in minutes. Only this site you went to does not make the software that does these amazing things. The site takes your money and supplies you with a version of Limewire which may well be doctored , filled with spyware and in short , probably not the same as the Limewire that you can get for free at Limewire.com. Limewire does not promise you will be playing games in minutes. It is an application that connects file sharers together, or hopes to. In fact there are more takers than givers, and sadly a lot of the givers upload viruses to the takers. I could go on but ~I won't. I just hope you have read the recommended links and can begin to understand that your indignation should be at those who sold you this "package" and not Limewire or these forums. You paid £20 for this package and that is nearly double the cost of Limewire pro and infinitely more litterally than Limewire Basic which I very much expect you have in some form or another. |
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well they do say "Your membership is backed by a 7 day satisfaction guarantee." and if they won't give you your money back .... well I for one know you were certainly not satisfied. Good luck! |
I havn't had a problem with Limewire i have been using it for around 2 years now and have found it very reliable |
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Even with international transaction fees for your credit card, this should not have reached as much as nearly £10. Most probably you've been scamed, and you have downloaded an incorrect version of LimeWire, possibly hacked with plenty of additional spywares. I recommand you uninstall it, check your system against a good antispyware and an antivirus, then download and install the free Limewire program from the official www.limewire.com web site. The normal procedure is first to try Limewire Basic for free, and if you like it, you can buy Limewire Pro at $18.88. If you did not use the Limewire.com website to buy your version, there's nothing that LimeWire can do to help you recover your money from the scammer. In that case, you've been stolen... I still can't understand how users think they will get better programs by paying for a more expensive program that evidently has no recognized support, no user community itself, no recommandation from any other online software review website, simply by following any kind of link they find through random websites found in advertizing banners or in poor web search engines. Isn't there enough links in Google and major download sites that speak about the official LimeWire or its active communities like this forum? Don't blame Limewire if you use a version that you have downloaded from an untrusted source. |
If you still think LimeWire is CRAP! then try Phex or FrostWire. they are also free. |
Frostwire is exactly LimeWire with just the name changed, but its copyright changed as well, and all credits to LimeWire removed (illegally according to the open-source GPL licence) |
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Its getting a tad bit silly. I dont understand why people just dont go to:www.limewire.com and order the Pro for 18.88. I cant imagine that people are so easily scammed by this? I dont get it. I really dont. Its amazing me and scaring me at the sametime. You dont even need to pay for anything, P2P is free and always has been. You dont need to pay a single dime for it. Ive used it for years and have never paid a single penny for any pro. Basic works just the same way as pro, you get connected to the gnutella network, not limewire network. Its the same files no matter what app you use and paying for a pro version does not make downloading legal. Its still illigal to download copyrighted material, no matter what program you use. :rolleyes: |
Why do you think that people buy LimleWire PRO? First they are given opportunity to use the free version. Then if they like it, and want to support its development they donate to the project by buying a licence for the Pro version. There's nothing wrong there, and in fact all open-source projects are collecting money to finance their development or the hosting of their website, by using non-mandatory donation systems, or making campaigns to collect money, or by proposing featured merchandising. LimeWire PRO is just that: a small donation to the open-source project, so that it can pay people working on it permanently, and that must still find a way to live, pay their rents, eat, have holidays some time (like you: would you accept to work without being ever paid? may be if it only consists in donating a small part of your time, but not if you work permanently). So it requires a business: even the GNU Foundation performs some business to finance its activities (the foundation sells CDROMs and merchandising, and it can sell separate commercial licences for the software it has created and released to the public under the GPL or LGPL and that other commercial companies or editors want to use without binding their software or content to the GPL too; as well the GNU Foundation organizes conferences, sells educational courses, and earns from the books it publishes and that you can buy in regular bookshops, or directly from the Foundation). You're dreaming about what a free software is, and why it can exist for your benefit. The principle of free software is that you benefit from it, and then can contribute too, either by participating to the project, or by donating to a fund that finances its development. You are not required to do it, but lots of people do that, because they don't want the project to be stopped and they do need the software, want corrections and enhancements. This is a very moral give-give trade between developers and users. The difference between free software and proprietary software is that all is given to fit your needs, and you have the right to modify it. You can also distribute your modifications as well, and even request some money for this distribution, provided that you respect the original authors. You are free to try, and free to delete the software at any time. You are not tied nominatively to another person or company as soon as you acquire its licence. The economical model is differentfrom commercial softwares but it's still a business. Suppose you take everything wihout donating, and everybody does the same, then no free software would ever exist because there would be nobody to create it, and nobody willingto distribute it. This is not a scam; unlike the many that have florished that collect moeny without participating to the project, and that abuse their customers with falsified trademarks and copyrights, and without even crediting the true developers of the software they distribute (and often pollute as well by integrating adwares and spywares which are not even present in any source...). |
You misread my post. Im talking about the users who are paying for a fake/scam instead of getting the real thing. No need to get defensive on me. People are being mislead and conned into thinking its be legal to download if they paid for the program, and, all Im saying its not. Whether you pay or use the pro and dont give me the high and mighty excuse about supporting open source. P2P HAS always been free up until Napster folded then all the greedy programers decided to charge users for a pro version which is a joke because its STILL a P2P app and STILL does the samething as a free P2P app. We all connect to the gnutella network. NOT Limewire. People are getting confused about WHAT THEY GET if they pay and all Im saying is, you get nothing different in a pro than you would with a basic. I dont care what features they add or take away, why should I pay or anyone else for a pro version just to download the same files for free? Its called trying to get rich off P2P. :rolleyes: added: and so far from what I can see on here, the scam sites are making ten times more money then Limewire. If they kept it free, they'd be no need for scam site. |
Your immediate above assumption is completely wrong !!! Scam sites do exist as well for free programs that have no official paid versions, even the most prestigious ones. You'll find paying scams for the GNU C compiler, for The GIMP, for FrostWire (see www.frostwire.com, the original, versus www.frostwire.org, the scam, as well as this thread in these online forums: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...=&pagenumber=1). Scammers are even repackaging and renaming commercial applications as well, also abusing their licences. These are criminals that make illegitimate money by stealing on the work of others, and even stealing money from their "customers" by not providing the promissed additional service, or by charging them multiple times, or by stealing their identities for other usages. In addition, if they provide you with some software, the software is too much often hacked and filled with trapdoors and spywares, or have been hacked to much that they do not perform some basic functions or will crash more often than the original app, as these hacks were not tested... Scammers are not programmers, they just want to make money quick (and yes may be they are earning more money, only because they don't spend anything in the development process and they don't want to pay people to do their job). So their activity is often linked to other similar ones like spamming for "promoting" their "product", or subscribing to advertizing networks (that they include rapidly in the hacked installers of the programs they distribute, often without having to modify lots of things in the program itself). Finally, scammers have something common with spammers: they don't reveal their true identity (their only known identity is their domain name on Internet, all the rest is unverifiable or inaccessible). They use fake company names, publish no verifiable street address, you won't find them in any yellow pages, their business name is not registered, and the only contact you can have is with some email address in the same domain name as the web site which is promoting their spew. Even the domain name registration contains fake addresses and names. If one seeks about those address, you may also see that they have used stolen identities. When this is discovered, those domain names are parked by their hosting company, the doamin names resolve to another "no-reply" web site, and the ISP does not even receive any complain from the scammer who does not want to be identified. There are tons of examples of that (and really millions of domain names that have been parked by their ISP until the end of the yearly registration period, due to identity theft) Fake domain names do exist because they were registered for a very small yearly fee, using stolen credit card numbers. This works often because the bank accept the payment without verifying well the identity. Sometimes the identity is real being associated correctly with the credit card number, but the people did not notice in their bank billing that their credit card was used for such small purchases (many people don't remember exactly what they bought, and do not control precisely their billing, especially for small purchases.) In addition any transaction form in their website is NOT secured by a SSL channel, meaning that the form will not be processed by a host in a secured domain, as this would require them to proove their identity to get a security certificate (so the transaction is not performed by a trustable bank: by filling this form, you give unlimited and uncontroled access to your credit card info directly to the scammer). There will be no PayPal payment offer as well (PayPal is a trustable bank as it has a wellknown and easily verifiable identity). Also often, the bank accounts were created by spammers/scammers in fiscal paradises for the time of the transaction. If you track the bank, you'll find amny examples in the Comoros Islands, in Nigeria, or in small and poor islands in the Pacific. (If you are not convinced, visit for example the official governmental website of the Comoros website: there are local laws that legitimate this type of business, for the national interest, and they refuse all international investigation for suspect transactions). The address shown in their billing is also wrong, or do exist but was selected randomly in white pages in random countries and is not connected to the debited credit card. |
lol, verdy, that where i stop reading your post. you famous for a long word post. but i do know you made very good point. |
Taken in by a Scam Site 1 Attachment(s) Guys GGT got taken in by a scam site, a site that seem to promise him everything he could ever want (forget the "too good to be true" factor:( ). Now take a look at the picture below, can anyone honestly say that if they were game playing internet novices that they would not be taken in by such a site. The action man alone causes the pulse to quicken and the heart to beat faster. Man, I can't wait for that adrenaline rush. Scam site are using more sophisticated advertising techniques to catch the "not so internet savvy" among us, and GGT just didn’t stand a chance (remember, he doesn’t speak or understands “geek”:confused: ) especially as it would never occur to him, and hundreds like him, to do a bit of reaserch into the site before parting with his money. So people, in the face of such obvious advertising advances and novices not taking the time to check before parting with their cash, I see a bleak future of senior forum members forever more explaining the facts of internet life :( to angry novices. UK Bob |
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I have followed this thread with interest, and whilst the thread seems to have vered this way and that:) ..... On the subject of Frostwire/Limewire I firmly support Trapjaw and the Frostwire team, and while no one really knows, I don't think, what the fate of Limewire will be, the fate of the Limewire tradition is in safe hands. I have been surprised by verdyp's condemnation of Frostwire. This is a part of the "about frostwire" credits "Our most sincere thanks go to LimeWire LLC and its current and former developers who chose to make their client open-source and without whom this project would not have been possible:" That looks like a perfectly acceptable credit to me and is followed by the names of the Limewire Developers. This From Frostwire's Website: "We are busy building a website and creating a new design for the FrostWire Gnutella client. Since LimeWire is a registered trademark we cannot distribute the client under its old name. For that reason, we are looking for creative p2p fans that would like to create skins, design logos or websites. However we are also trying to get more people working on the Java core, the interface and the C++ windows installer (based on GnucDNA and NSIS). If you are interested in maintaining LimeWire's legacy get involved! FrostWire and LimeWire We are trying to maintain good relations to the LimeWire project. The FrostWire team (all of whom are still members of the LimeWire open-source community) regrets LimeWire's decision to start filtering content on Gnutella. However, we will continue supporting LimeWire development and do not wish to make fundamental changes to the LimeWire core itself. FrostWire will not break with LimeWire's design philosophy. FrostWire however, will never offer a PRO version. The FrostWire project will always remain strictly non-profit and free of any bundled software, including any ads or nags." I think that is perfectly clear to anyone that Frostwire is totally indebted to Limewire and acknowleges the fact. As for the exact legality of the trademark and whatever, I find it slightly ironic that this should be an issue. later! |
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What I said was about the Frostwire distributed software, which currently comes without the credits required by the GPL. (for example the unilateral change in its resource bundles). Remember that the Frostwire software may be distributed by other means than the Frostwire website alone. So it is not enough to give credits on the Frostwire website, because this is not part of the distributed software itself. The GPL is clear: any copy must be provided along with all credits and copyright notices, and with a copy of the GPL licence. So Frostwire must be modified to be conforming with the GPL licence (and this can be done easily by reintegrating the copyright notice and credits in the resource bundles). |
To be honest, I think that Limewire does not fully respect the GPL as well. The GPL says that the software must also give access to the copy of the licence and to the copyright notices within its "about" functionality. Several months ago I submitted a change for the About box in Limewire, so that it would contain selectors to display an additional "Credits" page and a "Licence" page. This change was reverted, but not justified. I accept the fact that the Licence page is not required in the software made by LimeWire LLC itself because it is the copyright holder and LimeWire can choose to apply any licence it wishes, but this is problematic for those parts of the software that were made by other people and that are bundled in LimeWire. The relevant part of the GPL is the "How to apply the GPL to your software" section which exposes some ways that are considered sufficient to make the distribution conforming with the licence under which the software is published. For translations, there is a problem: there are many contributors, but it is not clear which licence they apply to their work. But for now, no translator has requested it, and then the copyright notice that is displayed on the Limewire.org website where the translation mailing list address is shown becomes the default copyright: translations sent to the list are donated to LimeWire LLC, under the terms of the GPL. That's why I think it is important to give an access to the GPL in the Limewire software itself, and to include a credits page (the list of all past translators is kept to allow such references, and there's a page on the Limewire.org web site where they are available, unless those translators said they wanted to remain anonymous or listed only though a pseudonym). However another way to conform the software with the GPL is to include those information in the installer rather than in the installed software, because it is a required step before using the software:by pressing OK to install the software, the user explicitly agrees with the terms of the displayed licence. |
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The last time Ichecked the Frostwire ressource bundle, the reference to Limewire copyright had been removed from the Frostwire version. And the last time I received an update for the German translation of the bundle, it was a bundle edited by a german contributor from the Frostwire distribution, with all comments and empty lines removed, and without the LimeWire copyright. I had to restore manually all the removed data (and unchange all the modified references to FrostWire) before applying the very few effective updates that it really contained. |
all you have been arguing about is verry interesting, but doesn't it just come to this: frostwire does not care about the GLU license as long as LimeWire doesn't seu them or anything or even gives them a warning, and don't you think if YOU guys know about frostwire being a clone, then the limewire devolopers know aswell? |
So far I have to agree with GGT. I purchased a subscription through www.gamedownloadaccess.com. Are you saying that I did not need to purchase a subscription from this vendor and that I should just go to "Limewire" and download a copy of their program? Is that what people mean when they say they have been scammed? I have a Mac with OSX and purchased this for my daughters to rty different games. I was not looking for "ILLEGAL and FREE GAMES"! I thought this was a legitimate games website. I have tried to download games without any success. I am not sure if I need to only look for a certain type of download. For the past 36 hours I have been looking for "The Sims 2" for OSX and everything I have downloaded has been crap. I'll take anything Sims right now just to see if this process really works. Lastly is Limewire and the fact that people are downloading games reallu ILLEGAL. Can someone answer these questions for me? My other questions regarding file types have not been answered so far. Thanks in advance. |
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Hmmm... Then take the same decision about all other protected contents, and copy and publish it as you want, and assume the risk yourself. A licence does not require to inform you that you are abusing it. The licence already contains provisions that you have already approved. By not following its terms, you are breaking a contract, so you can be legally the object of a judiciary procedure, without being told first that you break the law. In fact youalready knw that you are breaking the law when you break a contract unilaterally. note: the LimeWire licence is not "GLU" (???) but the GPL, i.e. the General Purpose Licence published by the GNU Foundation. |
Attn: verdyp Could you do me the favor and provide me some answers regarding this service. I have posted a couple of times and don't want to circumvent the process. |
jmbeam: Your post about file types was posted at the end of a long unused thread although I think the thread did, to an extent answer your questions. I have no idea personally what file types are Mac Games so I can't help you on that. I understand you have purchased Limewire from a scam site understanding it to be a Legal means of downloading games. I should make it clear that Limewire is a perfectly legal p2p (peer to peer) application which connects users together on the Gnutella network to exchange files. It is a known fact that not all the files exchaged are exchanged legally and that they are subject to copyright restrictions. I do feel you have bought and are trying to use Limewire under a misconception and I hope this clears that up. Many of the programme files are totally useless, that are available on The Gnutella neteork (for which Limewire is one of the primary applications. There is a feature called bitzi lookup where by you can control-click on a file in the search window, select Bitzi and be taken to a web site where you will be told if a file is good or bad, or you will be told there is no imformation on it. This will help find good files, but Limewire is really not a recomended source for programme files, although many people have had success finding good programmes here. You can post questions on the forum freely, but asking about specific copyrighted files is not allowed. You may also select pm and send a personal message to another member, but I and many others, would rather that questions that could better be asked on the open forums are asked there. I hope this helps a bit. |
Hobo, Thanks for the reply, any information is helpful! How is this leag whereas they closed Napster? When I purchased a subscription form Gamesdownload.com I didnt realize that they were scammers. MOst people looking at this site would think the same. Us neophites that is. So I can assume I will not be able to find games to downlaod and play? Also how is it leagl then to download songs into an Ipod? IS it because no one is actually paying for a service? |
As I understand it Napster operated as a cental server and thus was ultimately responsible for all the files transferred using it. As some of those files were copyrighted .... ok most of them. Napster was in trouble. Lime wire does not operate like this. The following is fom the Limewire website: "LimeWire BASIC is a P2P program for use only in the exchange of authorized files. Downloading LimeWire BASIC does not constitute a license for obtaining or distributing unauthorized material. Please do not download LimeWire BASIC if you intend to use it to infringe copyright." Now there may be those who chose to flout Limewires conditions, and some agencies will say they are acting illegally, which may be so. Limewire is not breaking any laws, any more than BMW are when they sell you a car capable of 150 mph when your national speed limit is 70 mph. If you exceed the speed limit, it is you who have acted illegally, not BMW. I'm not sure I mentioned the legality of downloading a song onto an iPod:):) You may well find playable games being shared on Limewire .. but I know for a fact you will find a lot of unplayable ones. |
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but for the rest of the discussion it's verry interesting seeing the different opinions |
I have been curious as to verdyp's relationship to Limewire, and I have to make a guess that he is the coordinator of the various language versions of Limewire, so he has an inside view. .... I think, but while it is evident as Panic Fire says that the Limewire and Frostwire teams have been in discussion ... I think ... again:) verdyp has apparently not been in on the discussions. So verdyp, I would certainly be interested to know what your position is within Limewire, so please let us know, so I can stop guessing:) |
Games???? Can anyone tell me if they have actually downloaded any games on Limewire? This was the original purpose . Everything I have downloaded so far has been complete crap. I have tried downloading other items just to see and these did not work either. AM I having all these problems because I run OSX? Thanks |
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I'm a supporter yes, and I have, as a contributor, supported the translation project. I can't do all what the LimeWire team can do, and I don't know all the business strategy and or the details of what LimeWire has in its projects. LimeWire does not even know precisely how to contact me. I'm just there often enough and since long enough to contribute usefully for helping the translation project that I initiated (and in the past to help as well on its development) and that LimeWire accepted to integrate as an additional service for its international users. But I don't even own any copyright or ownership on that project, which remains under full control and supervision by the official and contractual LimeWire working crew. If anything goes in a way that I don't like, I am free to leave that project at any time, without asking for permission to LimeWire, and even without having to notice them (although I would state my new position to them, for politeness, so that they can organize themselves about what to do once I'm no longer there). If I die tonight, nobody in my neighborhood will even send a notice to them. In clear terms: I am not affiliated with Limewire. The only contract I have with LimeWire is the GPL licence regarding the use of the source code on limewire.org (the same contrat that also links every LimeWire open-sourcer), and the software usage licence (the same licence as you) and the positions regarding the use of my personal account and password on their server, both of which can be removed by Limewire at any time without prior conditions. All what I can do can be traced by LimeWire in their history, and can be rolled back. |
Don't die tonight (the FrostWire projects needs your scrutiny, expertise, and support especially for licensing and international issues :) ) Seriously: your English tone may often be understood, but your ideas and contributions are always appreciated. I still think of you every time LW or FW has to hash big files--your optimizations there have been really effective. Thanks again |
Could the posters on this site tell me what kind of files that they usually download? I am curious to see how others utilize this service. In two days I have yet to downlaod any file that I could use. It also ticks me off that purchasing a subscription from a supposedly games website was really a scam. |
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Compared to thecurrent version in LimeWire, the one thatis on www.rodage.org/pub/java has about 20 to 25% of speed improvement (also the sources there include other hashing algorithms, also extremely optimized for performance for the new standard hashes. However the benefit face to the JDK implementation is much less impressive, because thesealgorithms are more complex and need more registers when the internal JIT compiler in the Java VM compiles the bytecode to native code. You would find there the fastest impelmentations anywhere on the web, made in 100% pure Java, and that outperforms most commonly used C-written implementations. None of them are in Limewire which has my first versions made about 1,5 year ago. I could be faster, but I need to study how to dynamically generate a Java class directly with manipulating the bytecode (this is possible with BCEL) as the only limitations I can see now are caused by the Java compiler (and the Java syntax requirements) that does not allow swapping some statements (however the JVM has made significant progresses since version 1.4.2, so that the extra time caused by suboptimal bytecode generated by the Java compiler can most often be avoided at runtime by the JIT compiler, which is now extremely impressive in the way it can generate excellent native assembly instructions from the Java bytecode. The benefit is extremely visible for example in 100% pure Java classes that now can perform 3D animation, or handle realtime audio/video streams. The other important benefirts in Java 1.4.2and 1.5 is definitely its new memory manager, the much faster garbage collector, the new unsynchronized classes for most I/O, the new multithreading scheduler, the internal refoundation of the JIT compiler with a more generic engine that can handle more registers and 64-bit architectures with smarter rules (including the use of MMX/SSE/SSE2 instructions if present, for 64-bit computing in 32-bit mode; also many benefits frome from the newer Java2D API which interacts cleanly with DirectX on Windows and so can use hardware acceleration for display of the various elements of the Swing interface; as well, Swing is now much more optimized. And there are lors of optimizations in Java 1.5 regarding the internal APIs that allow reusing direct buffers or that allow computing with platform native buffers without additional copies or transforms). Overall, this has helped LimeWire a lot. Bit Limewire itself was enhanced with faster internal processing, and with smarter management of internal priorities and worker threads. |
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