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I'm from the north east of england :) A good to town, alota charvas though:mad:

I thought you might be but the G'day and the Yehaaaaaa had me wondering:D:D

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Originally posted by Only A Hobo
Personally I find 128 stereo adequate for some of the old rubish I listen to. !92 is generally accepted as the minimum for high quality, and anything over that should be excellent.

Personally I use VBR for encoding. So if it's set to 160 kbps for example (using iTunes), it may well end up being a 241 kbps as happened to me some hours ago. (or could be less than 160) Besides, digital players handle VBR much better than CBR (Constant Bit Rate) & that applies to both audio & video. Not to mention the actual encoding improvements by spending equal bit rates upon simplistic music bits compared to complex bits as happens with CBR (ie: VBR spends more bit rates upon complex audio parts than those that are more easily compressed.) I personally don't encode at below 192 unless it's a song I'm not over-enthusiastic about or "some" heavy metal or the original sound quality doesn't deserve/require high bit rates. My favourites always get 320 kbps VBR or 256 VBR.

Anything below 30 kbps is only intended for talk recordings such as perhaps comedy. I guess similar to those cheap talk cassette tapes one could buy once upon a time. Music sounded disastrous on them. But digitally, just talk is fine (I suppose.)

Oh well just my thoughts & opinion for what it's worth.

yeah, your right about vbr and cbr, but it's just that 192 is the current standard, to go bye, it says so in WMP even if it's vbr encoded :D if the overal file is 192, or atleast i tought so :D

What do you mean it says so in wmp? Do you mean that's the default setting? Default settings don't necessarily mean much. Different music will compress at different qualities at the same bit-rate (if using CBR.) So all music parts will be compressed at 192 when some could have been done at 128 & other parts at over 200 because they needed that xtra bit rate info to preserve the quality. That's what VBR allows. CBR doesn't. But all the same, 192 CBR is quite ok. Anything below 160 I'd be dubious about. Sometimes the lower bit rates are fine, sometimes quite poor. It can depend on encoder software used also. And for some, the parameters/settings.

i mean if you play a song, you see what the bitrate is, i never see it varying during the song, even if it's VBR encoded that's what i mean.