Sharing - Doing the right thing
 

Hi there

I only joined last night and having read some the posts & threads I am a bit worried.

I want to use this site to download a Tv episode or a movie. Once I have watched it I would just delete it.

I am worried that I will have nothing to share which seems unfair. I have a pretty old laptop, if I don't delete stuff will it use up all my memory and make my pc really slow ?

Any advice from the experts ?

xxxDxxx

Whenever I download songs I erase them from LimeWire after burning them onto CD. What I usually do is leave one song in LimeWire so that way I'm still sharing something!:)

sharing
 

cyberstalker, you're not exactly furthering the cause of file sharing. one file? c'mon. what is it that you feel you are accomplishing by not sharing files you've downloaded?

If it affects your computer to the point that you can't use it for usual tasks then I have no problem with not sharing (or sharing less).

Its just as well we dont all share your view CyberStalker. As if everyone deleted what they downloaded and only shared 1 file, it wouldn't take long for the Gnutella network to be rendered useless...

limewire could you please explain to me how sharing files can slow down your computer? unless you mean people uploading slows your own personal downloading, again its just as well we dont all feel this way!

The only way that I know of that LimeWire will slow down you computer is if you are sharing a large volume of files and when you first add them to your share folder it can take a long time to hash them. While LimeWire is in this process it can slow down your computer it takes a large amount of CPU and ram to do this process. But once this is complete all things return to normal.

The only other thing that will slow things down is miss configuring LimeWire. If you do not configure your bandwidth properly for your connection it will appear to slow down your computer, this is a misconception it isn't your computer that is slowing down it is the connection that is overloaded.

While I do not believe in not sharing there are some cases where I believe it is mildly acceptable. People in some areas have very slow connections 26K etc. And it can be difficult to download, share, and cruse the Internet at the same time. When I am on the road I get these connections allot of the time and it really is quite frustrating. But I still share I just don't share when I am cruising the Internet. When I am done cruising the net or answering questions in the forum I will start LimeWire/Frostwire and leave it running all night. Thus eliminating the problem.

Thanks for the advice guys,

I will just keep on saving files and see if I get any problems. I would like to help as much as I can.

Grandpa, I don't know what Hash is, at least not in the way you mean !

My connection is a bit slow but will see how it goes.

Loving Limewire so far and everyone is very helpful.

xxxDxxx

Three Cheers for Grandapa, I leave my beasty running with LW up & active whenever possible, shared information / knowledge helps the world go round,,, & theres always CDRW for a tad extra file space for most for us. :) agnew

Re: sharing
 

Yes, that was what I meant. If a dialup user needs to browse the internet (even with graphics disabled) I think its pretty pointless to be sharing until they can dedicate all their bandwidth, which at most should probably have only one upload slot anyway.

If I recall there was a similar debate last week, were I got snapped at what I share... All Id like to say is that everone has different circumstances for what and when they share their files and even if they share only 1 file in my eyes their not freeloaders..
So before certain people shoot off at the mouth they maybe should enquire on why people do what they do.......;)

When I used dial up which was only 15+ mths ago, I only had one slot open for uplds, but if I was away from the computer sometimes I would open 2 slots (but just occasionally ... obviously one slot is better except when you take in account for shared downlding from multiple hosts.)

My advice for p2p sharing nowadays ... get another HDD be that internal or external. I have 2 internals (120 GB each), a 160 & 250 GB external (though I don't use the 250 for sharing ... only for backup.)

External drives are getting cheaper by the day. Even if it's less than 100 GB, it's going to be cheapish. Be it USB or firewire connection. It doesn't matter. You'll be surprised how much happier you feel with the extra space & options for both backup & sharing. Most people who use DC hubs have external drives ... it's a fact of life for p2p nowadays. Perhaps some of the newish peers can learn from this concept/suggestion. ;) :D

I know of some people who have mutliple 250 GB external drives set up for both downlding & sharing. Some specfically for uploading. (Yes 1-2,000 GB / 1-2 Terabyte shares)

Thank you, wondering why. I want to clarify that I only had one song but my sister and my Mom have more then that. With Windows XP we all have our own accounts so that means our LimeWire libraries are not all the same.

I dont share everything I download either infact I only share about a 100 song files, everything else gets off my drive as I have only a laptop and cant store files and you might want to ease up a bit as Ive said before if you share very large amounts the RIAA will probe you.

and most Gnutella users dont seem to want to download music anyway, unlike my napster days, I gladly shared 500 music files but whats the point on Gnutella? all they want to dl is stolen software/games/porn. ;)



shrug.

The main reason we downloaded LimeWire is for songs. The last thing I want is a virus in my computer.

Same here, but, you do have to watchout for the bogus MP3's however, as they are being generated as small files but namec as a mp3 extension.

I sometimes will download a movie trailer every now and then but thats about it. Oldies is what I search for anyway. ;)

Ibuy my software & DVD's. I refuse to buy music as Ive already bought the music Ive downloaded as MP3 and refuse to pay for it a third time in a different format.

Bogus mp3's? I've never heard of them before. What should I look out for?

autogenerated mp3 spam results for a start. Also T3 Spammers; mp3 Bit-Rates Versus File Sizes & Most Popular Songs R' Corrupt & here's an example of an older one http://www.zeropaid.com/news/6010/Ov...rs+Operations/

File Sharing
 

Cyberstalker, I apologize if I seemed to be snapping at you -- no snap was intended. At the same time, I am disappointed in your choice of language and tone in your reply. My point is a pretty simple one -- if you can't or won't share files, then I believe you shouldn't be downloading them. That's all I was trying to say. And I appreciate that you are now sharing.

Wondering Why, it seems that you and I differ in our definition of freeloader. Someone who downloads many files and only shares one is, in my view, a freeloader. And I guess I don't really care what the reason is for the lack of sharing. However, I would not accuse you of shooting off at the mouth, as I believe you were just expressing your opinion.

And, having read the various expressions of opinion about who attracts notice from the RIAA and other regulatory bodies, I have cut my own file sharing down below 1000 mp3's. Hope that makes it safer.

When I said 1 file it was only as a point, I myself share many more than that....
How does anyone tell a freeloader, you cant really, because the freeloader option doesn't work so if you set it at, lets say 1000, its not going to stop anyone even if their sharing only 1 file...
Browsing hosts isn't always reliable either because 1 min nothing shows and if you go back 5 mins later they can show over 1000 files, I had this happen with my ultrapeers just last night...
So the only way to tell if they're a freeloader is if they tell you...

Anyone feel free to correct my point of veiw, please do,
as I said I got slammed before because I stated that I had only 180 something files (I have a bit more than that now).

So I didn't mean to get snappy when I stated dont shoot off at the mouth, but Cyberstalker has a reason for what she does and she's entitled to that.....:)

Thats still a tad bit harsh. There are many reasons why users dont always share and I agree, freeloaders are no good for the network. Leechers should NOT be allowed on but, since Gnutella is a open network, there isnt much anyone can do. and, I do so miss the glory days of Napster before it soldout, all music and only music, you didnt have to worry about viruses because there was no other files expect MP3 and everyone shared, no one even thought twice about not sharing, ever since this RIAA crap, users are turning into freeloaders instead of sharers. sigh. ;)

freeloaders (S&*%)
 

i agree with Lord, i highly recommend external hard drive. i've had this one for awhile finally installed. biiiig difference. i have over 100GB of music but only share about 35GB at a time (about 7000 songs). I thought i put a thread out there about setting up for (or against?) freeloaders. mine won't work. i'm curious as to why????

i have it set for 5000 minimum, and rarely. yet i chat with (nothing to share) all the time!!:confused:

limits??
 

this is the first time ever for downloading. i have 900 albums in my library, put there 1 cd at a time. i had absolutely no idea how many songs anyone else might have. i started out sharing all my songs. because of (newbie) adjustments, and just checking things out, i found that to be too much. now that i've been on L W for a little while, i will adjust (amount of) songs. i'm just trying to figure out what to leave and what to remove!

but still, i haven't gotten my freeloader limiter to work. thanx for info. every time i get on this forum i find out something new.:D

p.s. i WILL be leaving "the ****s" as well as the rest of ***.