disappointment
 

I am very disappointed by Limewire.
I am trying to download with no firewall, setting up is OK and as a result I cannot download at more than 2 to 3 Kb, I only have 5 servers connected meaning poor choices when searching something (videos, musics,...).
I bought the pro version hoping to have better results, but it's even worse.
This is relly unbelievable how poor this software is and how difficult to get support really is.

Hi obiwan83,
It's a shame you're disappointed with LW. There are two stickies in particular which tell you how to get the best out of the pgm: in this section "A few things to consider while configuring LW for optimal performance" and within the Download/Upload Problems section: "Maximising download/upload success". You might've already read them but if not, have a look.

As for support: I can't judge the e-mail support as I don't have pro but you will get support and help here on the forum if you ask for it;)

Cheers

obiwan83

5 UP connections literally connects you to thousands of others depending on how many people are on the net at any given time. If you could do a speed test and post the results here we might be able to help. The link below will take you to a speed test.

We will probably need a little more info.

OS, Windows 98/2000/XP
CPU, P4 3.0 GHz/AMD 64 3200+Ghz
Memory, 256MB/512MB
Graphics/Video Card & Platform NVIDIA/Intel Extreme/Radieon & model #
Connection, Dial-up/DSL
LimeWire Version 4.8.1/4.9.11
Java Version 1.4.2/1.5.4
What firewall you use if any
What Antivirus if any
Are you new to LimeWire or Experienced
An accurate description of your problem



http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/ U.S.

http://specials.zdnet.co.uk/misc/ban...eedtest50.html U.K.

First of all thansk for your replies.

Sphinx : I am currently using LW 4.10. I bought the previous version of LW Pro in March 2005.

Birdy : I already had a look at this setion : "A few things to consider while configuring LW for optimal performance" but couldn't get more out of it. Dowoad rate is still very slow.

Grandpa : Bandwith speed test shows : 1528 Kbps and 187 K bytesps

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your download speeds are based on other peoples upload speeds, so on p2p your not downloading from a dedicated server, plus theres atleast ten people on this upload so it flucuates, its fine yo

I can't help but sympathise with obiwan83.

Limewire is continuously selling its pro version to people saying you will experience turbo charged downloads. But far too often we see people upgrading to pro and not having any increase in speed at all.

Then others say it is to do with their ISP or the people who they are downloading off. Maybe, before they entice people to buy pro they should add a comment in stating the fact that many ISPs are now shaping download speeds so there is a possibility limewire pro will have no effect at all. And if you are only downloading at 2-5kbs in limewire basic you are probably one of those people.

its supercharged connection, not downloads, just means your connected to more people

You can try the .limewire test in the link below.

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=36420

crawler_nt, Sphinx

Not that I disagree with you I believe that statement should be removed or a disclaimer clearly posted about possible limitations by there ISP. The statement is deceptive.

But if you have a fast connection with no limitations from your ISP there is a difference in speed between Pro and Basic. There are several things that come into play such as the #of people hosting a file there connection etc.

I did a little experiment last night I picked 3 files all 700MB or more all with at least 10 sources all showing T3. I then downloaded them with Pro. they all completed within 2 hrs.

I then did the same files with Basic the same file took a little over 2 1/2 hrs to complete. I am running the same test this morning and I am currently in the second phase of the test and it looks like the results are going to be the same.

In conclusion Pro is faster than Basic At least from my test results

Grandpa,

Im going to post 2 screen shots one from Limewire and I will do one from Bearshare to show you my speeds. How come I can go faster in Bearshare and not Limewire? How come I can find more rare songs using Bearshare Lite than Limewire? Its the same dam network, Gnutella but each app shows me different speeds. lol.

Ican get my normal cable speed in Bearshare but not Limewire can only assume they are capping it so you pay extra for the phony turbo charge speeds they promise with the pro version?

Im sorry but I disagree on that. You cant go any faster than your ISP allows you too when it come to Peer to Peer downloading.

I didnt pay for Napster and will never pay for pro anything, not while its from the same network, with the same files that you can get for free. If I wanted to pay for music, I would have stayed with Napster and paid for their dls. :rolleyes:

Bshare stats. under two minutes to dl a song. If you look at this stats in LW is not even half this for me. I go at 20k sometimes if Im lucky 30k speeds so I would love to know the big fuss over the turbo charge speeds? How much faster would I go?

Sphinx

You now I have been trying to figure that one out for a very long time. I have stated before that BS/Lite and LW get about the same results for me LW slightly faster and I stress slightly. Search results about the same, I just prefer LW that is a personal preference.

I do not think you are being shaped by your ISP but it is possible but I do not know why the would block or shape one and not the other.

I keep getting the feeling that it may be in your setting but I am not sure I keep looking for clues in your post. I believe the reason you get better search results with BS/Lite is you get more connections with it than you do with LW Basic. I have stated before the best for rare files I new of was WinMx but they are not doing to well right now.

Any way as I stated in my previous post it depends on your connestion.

Pro allows you to connect to 5 peers which is probably better for getting those rarer files. Connecting to more peers will allow further searches meaning the potential of more sources in searches. Pro also has the potential to allow downlds from 10 sources whereas Basic only 8. Birdy was on the ball when he suggested about optimising your particular set up. Remember everyone's set up is a little different. People can have the same model pc sitting beside another with the exact same programs installed, but they behave differently & one can have problems whilst the other doesn't. In the same way, some p2p programs are better suited to some people's systems & set ups than others. Sphinx has never tried pro so to call it phony is a little unfair. Oh well that's my 2 pence worth. lol :D

LOTR what is your max speed download in Pro???

I doubt very much I can go any faster with a socalled turbo charge.

Its the same bloody network, Im not understanding the difference in turbo speed than regualr speed lol. Just different apps. I have no fancy settings in Bearshare to make me go faster than Limwire.

Those stats I posted are live and raw. I download fast and I can get up to at least 13 hosts on a popular file and its free!

Sorry but I still wont pay to get an extra host or two from LW Pro. and its all just my opinion mind you.

As a test I even disabled my windows firewall for one download and still didnt go any faster than maybe 20. and Im not getting any answer as to why. I can dl an entire album in less time in Bearshare Lite than I can in LW. In LW it would take me over two hours to do an entire album if Im lucky. ;)

The same song, same network, more hosts in BS than in LW basic, different speeds. :rolleyes:

Another example look at the speed I can get in Bearshare. This same file in LW would take me close to a half hour and under to dl in LW basic. WHY>>>?

It maybe a bit blurred but I tried to avoid showing the titles.

Hi Sphinx

The shot below was taken about 15 min. after I started the downloads. I chose DL that had between 11 and 1 source showing on the search page. As you can see they all got 10 sources within 15min.

My max DL speed is 750Kb/s while it is not at max I can easily get it there by DL more files. But as you can see with Pro it does make a difference because of the # of sources you can DL from.

And yes it also depends on your sources connection as you can tell by the variances of speeds between different files but you can achieve very fast speeds with LW Pro. I have personally seen speeds in excess of 500Kb/s on a single file and commonly see speeds of 150 to 200

I cant get that sadly. I really wish I knew what I was doing wrong in LW. I should be going at the same speed I do in Bearshare. I went to do a screen of the same song in Limewire but I couldnt get it to comeup and I am not going to fiddle with my Windows frewall to get more speed.

I have cable I shouldnt have this problem. :rolleyes:

and, even if I paid I have a feeling it would still go at the same speed because this doesnt happen to me in Bearshare.


Im trying to do some more tests gonna post one more result from basic.

Grandpa, how did you did that screeny with what program btw???

Edited it with Adobe Photoshop CS2 and used the erase tool

I take the screen shots with faststone you might want to give it a try. It has some good features you can lasso the area of the screen you want and has a crop and resize feature built in. You can get it at the link below. It's freeware

http://www.faststone.org/

Grandpa did you see my screen shot? Also curious, as to what kind of connection you have?

Yes I did. I am asuming you have DSL. I have Comcast Cable My Speed test are 750KB/s Down, 44KB/s UP

Kidding heh, I was gonna say the same for you. I have comcast cable too and I dont go as nearly that fast. :confused:

Have you done a speed test

http://www.speakeasy.net/speedtest/

Interesting. Im not from any of those locations so the closest one to me speed says: 5351kpbs uploads 350kpbs. Hmm, thats about right I guess. But thats not my Limewire speed however.

So you should be getting about 700KB/s Down and 44KB/s up what do you get on BS/L

I just got PRO and I think the speeds have increased alot. I get alot better search results+ download speed has increased a little as well and I have never been downloading 1 file from 9 hosts at the same time before.

It must have been tinkered with I think cause everyone is reporting problems but me :D

Actually relatively very few people have problems with it.

How come you guys have such a big difference in Down/Up speed
Mine is 122/29 KB/s almost 4 to 1

Yep, but in Bearshare Only. NOT in Limewire I cant get anywhere near that speed in LW. and to answer your question sleepless, speed depends on location, where you live, and your ISP & bandwidth, it can flux. Personally, I think comcast sucks for speed but, thats my opinion. ;)

After about an hour of LimeWire I get an average of about 100/10 KB

I think that is quite good when the speedtest was little more

only thing is my up connection gets affected by how fast Im downloading and Its never close to 29 KB even when downloading slowly. While downloadspeed often go at maximum and over so it starts to jump (between 146 and about 60 up and down and up and down) my limit is set at 120 so I don't know why.

I also can't add new files to the network. I have tried asking friends of mine to search for some specific files that only I have, But the results don't come up. A bit strange cause the files have been hashed or what its called. They are not red anymore. Think thats kinda strange :confused:

There are so many people on the Gnutella net that the odds of your Friends being able to find your files are slim especially if no one else have them you might try direct connect. Look at the bottom left corner of the search column click on direct connect it will tell you the address for your friends to enter to connect to you.Then you can share your files with them.

But these are files that noone else is sharing, and none exept the spam results show up, and maybe a few others maybe like 35-40 in total, shouldn't they show up then ?

I am firewalled and curently locked out from my router, so "Direct Connects" don't work well for me :mad:

I have yet to have problems and I use basic. Its just that I feel Bearshare is faster for me than Limewire. I have never had anything go wrong with the program its self. Then again, Im not a heavy downloder, I just share my music. ;)

Im gonna try sharing my entire music folder just to see if any off them are uploading if not then something definently is wrong

There is definently something wrong

9 out 10 uploads fail before completion and not only With LimeWire. I tried the same thing with FrostWire, and there more than half of the uploads failed, but still better than with LimeWire