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help09876 November 1st, 2006 01:45 PM

Child Pornography - Limewire should take action
 
It is obvious Limewire is used by sick people to do sick things. Without making an effort, using a default search filter in Limewire (Videos > Adult) you can quickly be exposed to child pornography.

Drilling into some of the keywords used in this listings, you are presented with a smorgas board of illegal material to choose from.

The question is, how do we stop it?

It could be argued that Limewire, as the service provider, should protect its users and do their best to stop it. I am not sure of Limewires official position on this, but I have yet to receive a reply to the many complaints I have made.

Free speech is one thing, but the abuse of innocent children is another.

Limewire should make available an easy way to report these individuals. They should allow a user to report an IP address or details of an offender. A simply method would be to include a "Report content" button, at which the Limewire server received a report of an IP address with the file name offered for download at the time and date it was reported. The system could instantly send a message to the IP address (if valid) and inform the user they have been reported for potentially offering illegal material. Limewire can make their decision after reviewing the content if they need to report it to the authorities.

Any sane person would have to agree something has to be done. The above may not be an appropriate or technically possible solution, but as users of Limewire we should continue to pressure Limewire to act upon this.

I'd hate to see the FBI or other agencies shut down Limewire because of incidents like this. No one wants that, but eventually I think it will happen.

Limewire - If you are reading what can you do?


Regards,
A concerned user.

Peerless November 1st, 2006 01:53 PM

so w00ts yur real agenda here d00d?

LW is NOT a service provider....

and what/where are these supposed 'many complaints' you have made...

you sure the heat down there in Canberra ain't frying yur brain and you are mistaking this board for another?

Elmo Man345 November 5th, 2006 12:13 PM

If your looking up porn on LW, you must need some help with the ladies...

pcxe November 5th, 2006 10:27 PM

LW "adult educational material" search results r unreliable @ best
 
So far I have done a few porn searches for specific movie titles, I've tried different keywords; filtering; advanced search techniques & I RARELY get anything that is remotely similar or relative to my queries. Most results that are titled correctly have a 98 % percent chance of NOT being what it says it is.

This is not that surprising considering internet adult contents current state of disaster. Intentionally searching for adult material is like a pc death wish & sadly the slightest typing error, 'miss-click' or deceitful redirection can land you into the wonderful world of MALWARE attacks.

I believe that the current increasing pc malware molestations (usually associated w/ porn sites) have already started to, & will continue to, expand into the internet mainstream.

So pay no attention to the ridicule & continue down the 'dark alley' & enjoy any valid "adult educational material" you can...And when the malware attacks are devastating the internet community, people will wonder how you became such an expert at removing and preventing such attacks...as they pay you top dollar for your expertise. :)
Good Luck

neonplanet November 7th, 2006 09:59 AM

Unable to delete files
 
new user here:

I have been downloading music and recently opened Widows Media and found child porn. I dont recongnize the player icon, it looks like a gold piece of paper........I can't delete it and I can't exclude it and more likely than not is being shared right now. How do I remove files that do not respond to the delete command......and may have the error: unable to delete, file is being used by another program.

Thankyou.

Neon

birdy November 7th, 2006 02:30 PM

Have a look through the thread below for some advice
Incomplete download file won't delete at all

I've used both DelinvFile & Unlocker & they've worked well;)

Warren Peace November 8th, 2006 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by help09876
The question is, how do we stop it?

Hello,

I fully agree with you that this is something that needs to be addressed. I have contacted my local police office whenever I received spam e-mails that contained lewd photographs of minors, or links to websites that may contain the same.

Many law enforcement branches either have officers that work on various forms of Internet-based crime, or they may have a s3x-crimes unit that would investigate Internet-based s3x crimes. If they don't have either at their detachment, then they would likely forward such complaints to provincial/state or federal authorities.

Just like with any type of crime, your best measure is contacting local law enforcement and leave it in their hands to investigate these kinds of crimes.

On another front, I'm not so sure that the P2P provider should be held responsible. However if they knowingly allow child pornography to be shared, then they should be responsible for contacting their local authorities to report such matters.

I do not believe that P2P providers should instantly ban or discipline users. We are all innocent until proven guilty, and in some of the spam cases that I have reported, the authorities found that the "teeny-boppers" were actually deemed to be over 18, despite looking many years younger in some cases.

Take care...

Peerless November 8th, 2006 06:56 PM

'legally' speaking p2p networks cannot do anything directly against sharers of such files..if they could, the network by definition would be illegal...the gnutella network is totally decentralized, and as such is legal...to be able to in any way control the network would be a sign of 'centralization' and said network and/or clients would be deemed illegal...

Lif November 8th, 2006 09:41 PM

Hello

I am quite new to Limewire, but I agree that this tpic should be handled with more thought. Who knows who is using Limewire. For example, a 7-year old could be trying to find a movie or a Ttelevision show that they wanted to watch and they find some movie that someone made that they shouldn't see, but they begin to wonder what it could be and when they start to watch it's too late. What I really hate though is downloading a Television show or a movie that I have just sent the last hour or 2 trying to found and it turns out to be a prono movie that someone made that is titled with the same name as the television show or the movie that I just sent the last hour or 2 trying to find and after I just sent some time downloading it I find out that it's not the thing that I wanted. At that moment I have to delete what I just downloaded and begin my search again.

Make_Me_Bleed November 10th, 2006 02:12 PM

Disgusting!!!
 
I only had to search the word "dark" under image files on Limewire, and a couple of child pornography images (or what i assume is that, as the descriptions reads) came up under my search results. Is there some way to stop this? Some way of reporting these people? U can get their IP address cant you? Isnt that a way they can be tracked down?

Guana77664 November 12th, 2006 07:18 PM

Hmm, from the sound of this topic, it seems we do have an ever-increasing problem with porn, but like people have said there's not much LW can do about it. It would be nice if we didn't have sickos providing such crap on LW, but as a LW user, all I can do is steer clear of it as best I can. That's about all any of us can do, as LW users.

Peerless November 12th, 2006 07:45 PM

that's not exactly true...

you can report such ppl who are sharing the stuff...either choose to block the host, or browse the host...both actions will show the IP address of the user..and then you can report it here: http://www.missingkids.com/missingki..._US&PageId=169

Guana77664 November 13th, 2006 12:10 AM

Ok, my bad. I thought there wasn't anything any of us could do, but it turns out we can do something.

boricuasport November 16th, 2006 12:48 PM

we get in trouble ourselfs
 
Could one of these ppl report us for downloading or sharing music we haven't bought isn't that illegal too.

Peerless November 16th, 2006 02:24 PM

jeez..that's rather a totally different type if illegal, don't you think?

it the RIAA and MPAA spent as much effort tracking down sharers of CP as they do media files, there probably wouldn't be any on the network..

rogmar December 24th, 2008 11:21 AM

there seem to be a number of issues here that i'd like to briefly address;

p2p networks are indeed a haven for porn, child porn, viruses and malware. this is true. however, you can't expect any centralized p2p god to take over and punish the wicked. why? because in order to impliment any kind of control over those files would introduce the concept of p2p networks being able to have some control over what is being shared on their networks, and that would lead to the inevitable conclusion that the p2p networks could then stop you all from downloading the games, music, movies and software you all are looking for.

and those are all illegal to share too.

"but that's a different kind of illegal" is like saying "just a little bit pregnant" or "i'm just going to kill you a little bit". illegal is illegal, that's it. and if you want someone to stop the OTHER guy from breaking the law, just because you don't like what he's doing, then that someone will be obligated to then stop YOU from breaking the law. common sense.

as for the files themselves, i can tell you with some authority that the vast majority of those files you are all so worried about do NOT contain what they say, much in the same way that the television show you spent hours downloading is actually someone's home movie renamed to fool the masses. the vast majority of them are named with provocative- and even illegal-sounding names, but when you actually download them and open them, they are mostly mainstream pornography taken from popular porn titles or they are anti-child-porn crusaders trying to get their message across to those who might be attracted to those files.

how do i know this? i was (briefly) involved in a joint task force trying to pin this problem down. the problem is much larger than you would think it is, mainly because of what i described in the paragraph above. how do you put someone in jail for naming a legal file as if it were an illegal file? how do you put someone in jail that might be trying-in their own misguided way- to put a stop to it as well? we downloaded thousands of files, logged thousands of ip addresses, but out of thousands of files we only were able to verify and start an investigation on a few of those files, 7 if i remember correctly, and that was from 2 different ip addresses.

i was not involved in the investigation, and soon after i was assigned to another department, so i don't know how that particular investigation worked out, but you can see how it would be difficult to stop these "child porn" peddlers.

most of them have retreated to mIRC channels where they trade files with each other, and frankly, that is a much better venue in which to fish for those particular predatory creatures. they flock to the rooms to share files, and olny to share files, so it's almost like shooting fish in a barrell.

so don't freak out about it so much, there are people trying to stop it, it needs to be stopped, and as long as the good guys wear white hats, it'll happen.

USE FILTERS! if you really don't want to see these filenames, then put "roygold" (with an @ where the first o is), "pthc", "kiddy" and any other freakishly sick keywords you want into your filters, and check the adult content filter box too. then you can have a nice time searching for your illegal music, software and videos in peace, without the nasty criminals bugging you with bad filenames.

also, check the filesize for those of you worried about bad programs, if it's only a few kilobytes in size, it isn't that new britney spears song or the latest photoshop version, it's a virus.

i hope i have been of some assistance, but i'm sure that this thread, like the problem of child porn, will not go away...

it is nice to see that there are people concerned about this issue.

shedosjo January 4th, 2009 09:00 AM

Need some advice guys,

Recently I was trying to download porn for college age teen girls (18-21 basically), did a search, and then did a mass download (used basically a select all method of download). Big mistake on my part. I should have known better than to enter very general search terms. I let limewire do it's thing and came back to find that there was a lot of sketchy looking child porn including some files that were obvious while others were mislabeled as other porn.

Needless to say I am very disturbed by things I saw and I'm starting to feel disgusted and depressed. I seriously haven't felt like eating, leaving the house, and have had a hard time sleeping. Compounding the problem is that I read that authorities check these networks for downloaders of this stuff and I fear I will be prosecuted for something i didn't mean to do.

Does anybody have a link to a website or outreach group that I can talk to about this?

johnnys55s January 4th, 2009 04:42 PM

A good pedophile is a dead pedophile !
 
Report them too your local police and let them track em down , seize their computer and charge them so that all their friends ,family and employers know just what they are about and then vigilante justice if possible HANG EM HIGH ! just dont get caught! anyone who would ruin a childs life has no place in life ! KILL em or put the light on them and save a child from this dissgusting abuse ! BE A WINNER PIPE A SKINNER !:xeri_ok1ani:


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