VTOL needs to chill out
 

Hey look if your not happy with Limewire then use something. If you keep insulting Adam and the LW team they are gonna be more reluctant to continue development. So instead of spoiling it for the rest of us happy users you need to be more respectful to the hand that feeds you!

I am happy with LW , the only thing I complain for is the spyware .
I'm very satified with LW (both the software and the developer support) .
If I insulted someone of the LW crew sorry .
Didn't mean to ...

You serisouly need to stop trolling with complaints on the stupid *** spyware. Like I said you have three options, install the Basic with ad installers and support development, or pay 6 dollars and support development, or compile your own from the source. You may even have a forth stop using Windows and install some *nix OS, then you wont have this spyware problem. I'm running FreeBSD and I dont have any spyware :] . But anyways, you just keep trolling about the same old stupid ****. In which I'm sure LimeWire's team is getting more annoyed than actually angry b/c of false accusations.

Numéro Uno :
 

1) I am using Unix
2) This PC is multi-boot : Win98 , Win2k and Unix
3) Ain't I taking care of my own damn **** ?
4) When was the last time I yelled at a LW developer ?
5) They take out CyDoor and put their own **** in instead .
I complained once then I silenty removed it myself and decided they can do whatever they want aslong as I can take it out .
6) Last time I checked there was freedom of speech in this forum .
7) I do not coplain about old stuff over and over .
I complain about something else every time I complain .
8) If my parents would let me buy LW I would !
But they are stuck in the stone-age and think it's too dangerous .
You think I like that ?
I wanted to buy software that I could crack before : ZoneAlarm , WinZip , ACD See , Quicktime ...
But my parents won't let me .

oh
 

so basically you are a kid.

Yeah ...

If I had my own credit card I would buy LW , It's only 6 bucks !

Dual booting sucks, just stick with unix.

Its not necessarily that you're *yelling* at anyone but its the needless whining about none sense that has gotten annoying.

some examples

http://gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=7260
(you mad about your wonderful windows firewall saying something abotu a server app having a port open. (If you ran FreeBSD (unix) you wouldnt have that problem.

http://gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=7133

insulting LimeWire for their hard work and time about the stupid installers again.


http://gnutellaforums.com/showthread.php?threadid=7357

false accusations to some port that is open. You must realize LW doesnt have any control over what the installer does.


Yeah, there is also a thing called respect.

That is funny.

You just "luve" digging up dirt don't you ?

BTW : I use Windows to run my games .
Yes , you can use an Emulator but those things generally give bad performance or crash .

First LW "is" responsible for their installer...

they cannot check all parts of it but they can sign better agreements!

Second, you are talking about respect - where is your respect?
Should we only respect developers?

My two cents:

At the beginning chrors called my posts accusations too...

because nobody confirmed it...

later they discovered that I wrote the truth!

Much changed since I explained my point of view to Adam Fisk in private...

thank you Adam! :)

VTOLfreak is allowed to wright his opinion, if he does it without flaming and in a diplomatic way! This forum informs the "user" and we have to hear "all" voices here, not only the developer view!

Developers and users should work together to improve the product, and the critic cannot be always positive - all voices must be heard if you don´t forget the diplomatic way (a hard way - I know this!)...

Remember we are "one" community!

Morgwen

I said they don't have control over what the installers does but they can of course sign better deals. If you wanted to make that into argument those were two completely seperate thigns.

yes, definitely respect the developers, gnutella would be nothing without LimeWire and other gnutella developers. 'Secondly" Morgwen, sounds like a girls name, shutup. You're the most ignorant person on this forum. Please stop coming back with these needless remarks about bearshare.net and something about not reading posts, etc. They only time I have 'flamed" as you put, it was 8 months ago on bearshare.net and a couple of times on here b/c of Vinnie (it was summer bordem). As I have read about your experience with Vinnie, I assume you know what bordem is. But besides that you're a very ignorant person. You're almost as bad as that vtolfreak boy. You do more complaining then anything. As for me, you can check out the LimeWire forums and see I've done nothing but help and explained.



You must also realize these people working at LimeWire, Inc are MIT and other higher priority university graduates. Read:

Adam.

http://www.limewire.com/crew/adam.html

Greg.

http://www.limewire.com/crew/greg.html

(3 years as a Java guru in the Risk Management Information Technology department and etc.)

and here are you KIDS such as vtolfreak, morgwen, and others telling these guys with degrees how gnutella, limewire and every other freakin things works! I'm just surprised....I mean no one seems to understand GNUTELLA is a developmental process. Everyone seems like they just want a way to download their porn faster.


You choose who you want to here, everyone is not equal.

Voice with ignorance should not be heard. Thats how ignorance spreads.

I am a KID??? I am not 16... - I am 30!

And yes I am no developer - but if I don´t understand something I ask other developers "how" all works and "what" is possible!

SO I think I can build my opinion - I tested almost all clients and I speak daily with at least two developers...

Do you really think you are the only man in this forum here who understands how GNUTELLA works? :rolleyes:

And "shut up" and Morgwen its a girls name are very good arguements! :rolleyes:

Let me say it in your words - shut up!

Morgwen

And what has Mr. Anti-Bearshare done exept for complaining too ?
I'm now in the Clean LimeWire project .
Thus I'm actually contibuting something .

I've had allot of PM's and mails from people that couldn't get LimeWire to install because the official installer crashed .
So I've started to write my own installers for LW and I've had nothing but positive E-mail yet .

BTW : If any of the LW crew read this flame-war :
Have you ever considered using a installer not dependant on "Windows Installer" ?
Allot of people have problems with Windows Installer and InstallShield .

Re: oh
 

that would explain a lot!

Re: Re: oh
 

This is no secret, look in his profile!

Morgwen

Yeah , what's the problem with being a kid ?
I have no reason to hide my age .
You going to accuse me of being 15 ? :D

haha....very DEFENSIVE i must say.

It wasnt an argument, it was mockery.

You forgot to put the 'rolleyes' syntax after you're witty remarks there. I guess its just the old age.


I havnt complained about the spyware, installer, or limewire connections (what was happening with v1.9-2.0). As you can see those people that have complained I have explained what was going on to them (as you and others). About the installer, just zip LimeWire using the exact path and tell them to make sure to have java installed. If they cant do that. They should run the basic version and help pay for the development.

Alright guys, this thread has gotten a bit unproductive. I'm tempted to close it, but I'm hoping that we might be able to reach some resolution on this.

All I can say is that it's definitely difficult for everyone to see eye to eye on everything -- lord knows I have problems with this myself quite frequently. The three primary contributors to this thread are also three of the most energetic and almost always beneficial contributors on this forum. So, I guess I just ask that everyone use their knowledge in a productive way. When conflicts come up, it would be good if we could try to be a bit more cooperative.

I have to admit that I have gotten frusrated with VTOLFreak's posts on various occasions (no offense, man, but it's the truth!), but I have to agree with Morgwen's point that it's healthy to have a little disagreement. Also, you (VTOLFreak) clearly have considerable knowledge, particularly for 15 year old. Morgwen and anti-bearshare are two of the most consistently helpful people on this forum. And, come on, anti-bearshare runs Free-BSD -- you gotta like that.

At the same time, we would definitely appreciate it if users would treat us with respect. That doesn't go just for us, though -- I feel strongly that everyone on the forum should be treated with respect -- particularly when we disagree.

So, anyway, sorry this is getting a little long and turning into some strange rant/philosophical meandering. Let's just get this thing (Gnutella) rolling like it should be and show a little respect for each other's efforts.

Plus, it just hurts me to see you guys fight. It makes me feel like I'm a failure as a moderator or something, you know? Does nobody think about me around here? Just kidding. :confused:

Closing the thread sounds good to me. I just find it very irratable when such people spout about things they know nothing about. I'm in the computer field and I meet people like this all the time (Microsft talk, errr....insanity). Most of the time I do nothing, but there are times where they cross the line or I find the urge to correct their ignorance. I also find myself not boasting about my knowledge like so many generic geeks do or try to do. I feel like the wiser, listens then speaks. As I've said before voices with ignorance must not be heard. Thats how ignorance spreads. But we do learn from our mistakes and hopefully we will correct them. Thank you.

Anti-bearshare!

If you are so wise, and want to ignore the ignorant... why don´t you stop to insult them? This is an open forum here not only for developers or computer freaks!

@ afisk

Please close this thread!

Morgwen

Alright guys, here goes -- this thread is closing. All I can say is let's try to keep up the level of civility on the forum overral, less we degenerate into the new bearshare.net (sorry Vinnie).