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Vinnie May 26th, 2001 08:29 PM

LimeWire hurting GNet?
 
It has come to my attention that although LimeWire is taking advantage of READING the search results that BearShare sends out to determine if the server is busy, they are not SETTING these flags in the extended area.

This prevents people from detecting if a LimeWire servent is busy or not, and therefore puts more load on BearShare users.

It was apparently an intentional oversight, designed to improve the reliability and quality of downloads using LimeWire, at the expense of the BearShare servent.

NOTtoPanic May 27th, 2001 04:27 PM

IT'S YOUR FAULT!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie

It was apparently an intentional oversight, designed to improve the reliability and quality of downloads using LimeWire, at the expense of the BearShare servent.

No, they posted the byte format to the gdf weeks ago, and since you can't write protocols, think before you create your own little nightmare idea of a protocol mod, or even write english for that matter, they messed it up!

IT'S YOUR FAULT!

Quit grabbing at straws, your world is out of control and you are freaking out because you are losing the ability to dictate over it.

Here are the problems: You don't own Gnutella, you can't control Gnutella, there is no throne to sit on in Gnutella, Gnutella won't allow a dictator, and you just found out you really arn't god, so you have no choice but stomp your feet, jump up and down and hold your breath till everyone does what you want, your way.

The solution: Look in the phone book under "Psychotherapists". You don't seem to get it, and you deny having a dictator, control freak, rule over everyone attitude, so you better get a appointment quick because we all see it from here. These forums are not about providing free psychotherapy to you, it's just a warning sign that trouble is ahead. If you were in person I assume it would be worse, I think we are getting only the tip of what you are like for real. How was your childhood? Were you abused? What was your dad like? Please lay down when answering.

Please seek help, please make a Vinnie Net protocol and be on your way to complete and total control. (if you can figure out how to be compatable with your own protocols that is)

Don't worry, be a happy dictator! (in your own little virtual bubble, please leave us alone)

CycloCide May 27th, 2001 04:41 PM

Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by NOTtoPanic


No, they posted the byte format to the gdf weeks ago, and since you can't write protocols, think before you create your own little nightmare idea of a protocol mod, or even write english for that matter, they messed it up!

IT'S YOUR FAULT!

Quit grabbing at straws, your world is out of control and you are freaking out because you are losing the ability to dictate over it.

Here are the problems: You don't own Gnutella, you can't control Gnutella, there is no throne to sit on in Gnutella, Gnutella won't allow a dictator, and you just found out you really arn't god, so you have no choice but stomp your feet, jump up and down and hold your breath till everyone does what you want, your way.

The solution: Look in the phone book under "Psychotherapists". You don't seem to get it, and you deny having a dictator, control freak, rule over everyone attitude, so you better get a appointment quick because we all see it from here. These forums are not about providing free psychotherapy to you, it's just a warning sign that trouble is ahead. If you were in person I assume it would be worse, I think we are getting only the tip of what you are like for real. How was your childhood? Were you abused? What was your dad like? Please lay down when answering.

Please seek help, please make a Vinnie Net protocol and be on your way to complete and total control. (if you can figure out how to be compatable with your own protocols that is)

Don't worry, be a happy dictator! (in your own little virtual bubble, please leave us alone)

NOTtoPanic, stop flaming in these forums.

That whole post was a flame except "No, they posted the byte format to the gdf weeks ago".

chr_rossi May 27th, 2001 04:51 PM

Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
 
Hallo:

it is not easy to defend Vinnie here, but also I feel you shot a little over the target also, if I may say so.

His (Vinnies) attitude is for sure not the best *ahem* , but it is impossible for me to complain about the niveau of his posts and then 'lower' me down, down to exactly the same flaming style he did so often.

I do not believe it is necessary to insult him, I can not see the sense in starting flame wars. If we do, nobody is helped, not us, not the gnutella community, and no newbie also. And I do not like, while reading threads, to sift out all the insults regardless the sides and my sympathies to harvest a little bit of information at last.

I became a gnucleus user last week, and I have to admit that this decision consisted 20% out of unresolved issues and 70% dislike of his attitudes*, and his endless insulting. This was no joy for me, no cheap revenge, I pitied him for he wounded him all by himself.

So, think, do you want to wound your point of view by insulting back?

Please do not take this as offence, it is not meaned so!

Greetings, and a lucky week!


*You wonder about the missing 10%? Easy: Calculating was never my strongest side :-)

NOTtoPanic May 27th, 2001 05:20 PM

Re: Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by CycloCide


NOTtoPanic, stop flaming in these forums.

That whole post was a flame except "No, they posted the byte format to the gdf weeks ago".

Yea, sorry. It just gets me that he knows this but still tries to blame his problems on other clients and never thinks maybe his stuff is to blame. This is frustrating!

I will try to calm down. Give it a day or two and it will all blow over.

Unregistered May 27th, 2001 05:46 PM

CycloCide is right.
 
It only makes matters worse when we personally assault Vinnie. It accomplishes nothing. It only gives him fuel for the fire.

Lets try to keep the discussion aimed towards BearShare as a servant and not Vinnie as a person. :)

Kirby May 29th, 2001 04:48 PM

Vinnie, it seems, is just trying to bullshit LimeWire and other servants because LimeWire said on their website that his Bearscare had spyware. He said that LimeWire had something real nice coming their way. What was he gonna do? Take a break from his intensive firewall cracking classes and destroy LimeWire? Anyway, Vinnie can bullshit his way to the moon and not get a single issue solved. We're just trying to get things sorted out and Vinnie comes along. I guess he's starting to ease up on that. We should focus not on finger-pointing and flame wars, but solving the issues. And by the way, lies don't help either.


Signing Off,
Kirby

Unregistered May 30th, 2001 12:58 AM

Apology?
 
like 3 days now and no apology from vinnie on this will it ever happen?

SRL May 30th, 2001 02:23 PM

Right...
 
Yes, like the would-be Mussolini of the Gnutella world would apologize for anything. It's fine when *his* program screws others over, but should anyone stand in the way of his proprietary packets - beware!

You know it's bad when all he can resort to it forum bombing! Note to CycloCide: you should collect all Vinnie's comments and send them to the abuse address of his ISP - maybe his webhost too!

How about LimeWire and the others add a "Block BearShare" option just like they have for Mandragora and other trojans! ;-)

BearShare Uber Ales!
All hail the clan of the Cave Bear!
(Insert Sycophantic comments by kutulus here...)

Sephiroth May 31st, 2001 07:15 PM

Whew i havent laughed that hard for a while..

I hope Limewire does block ALL connections from Bearshare because around 70%(very conserative estimate most likely higher) of ALL people on Gnutella use Bearshare. So go ahead block Bearshare lol theyll just shoot themselves in the foot.

Anyways The Limewire thing isnt kewl because it puts there users at a advantage by offering them more content without allowing the user to see what the user on the other side is using. It discourages users from other programs from downloading off their users. Which is counter productive and isnt a good for the network.

As for taking over gnutella some people here are really really stupid not to figure out why that would be a horrible thing to do. If someone took over gnet then that would create a centrali structe for people like the RIAA and MPAA to sue. So unless you want huge legal problems and to wrangle with multibillion dollar corporations no one is going to take over the network.

And another thing there is a way to make your opinions be herd without being obscene, or making a *** of yourself. If anyone here wants to get any higher than flipping bugers i suggest you learn how to respect people even though you may not agree with there actions.

what ever happened to innocent until proven guilty...

Parkaboy June 22nd, 2001 05:25 PM

Innocent until proven guilty?!?
 
LOL!!!! That principle hasn't been seen in action in america for a loooooong time! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

Moak June 23rd, 2001 03:58 AM

The funny thing about lot of Gnutella forums are those heavy flaming wars and civil war between Bearshare/Limewire Users/Vinnie.... actually it is the biggest disadvantage for all!

I have a dream of a gnutella community which sit together at a virtual table and think about improvements. The gnutella protocoll needs improvements, you'll see Bearshare and it's proprietary metadata or other ideas like Swarmcast or Mojo Nation. When we don't stop this, better improved ideas will end those discussion, because gnutella dies and propably Morpeuhs takes over the world. :)

PS: when you wanna continue about world domintaion, it's written "XXX über alles"... but who cares. This idea also died.

Kutulus June 26th, 2001 10:33 AM

Vinnie is right... limewire is bad for gnet

stop using limewire right now and go download the new bearshare v2.2.5

Also, go to bearshare.net because this forum is all flames and lame people that don't know what the **** they are talking about... so its best to leave this forsaken place...

Vinnie June 27th, 2001 06:38 PM

Fixed
 
Apparently they resolved the problem in the current version (or maybe future version?), so ignore my rant at the beginning of this thread.

limewire guru June 27th, 2001 09:16 PM

Thank you Vinnie.

portchop June 29th, 2001 09:25 AM

Re: Innocent until proven guilty?!?
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Parkaboy
LOL!!!! That principle hasn't been seen in action in america for a loooooong time! :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:
You must be kidding! In america Black Football players / killers are innocent AFTER proven guilty!

Morgwen October 16th, 2001 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kirby
Vinnie, it seems, is just trying to bull**** LimeWire and other servants because LimeWire said on their website that his Bearscare had spyware. He said that LimeWire had something real nice coming their way. What was he gonna do? Take a break from his intensive firewall cracking classes and destroy LimeWire? Anyway, Vinnie can bull**** his way to the moon and not get a single issue solved. We're just trying to get things sorted out and Vinnie comes along. I guess he's starting to ease up on that. We should focus not on finger-pointing and flame wars, but solving the issues. And by the way, lies don't help either.


Signing Off,
Kirby


First of all, the installaion of new.net and save now is optional! If you installed the program use ad-aware:

http://download.cnet.com/downloads/0...0-7302674.html

Vinnie is lying why? You have to read the agreement...
And if you flame on him you will flame back its human...

Morgwen

Morgwen October 16th, 2001 12:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Kutulus
Vinnie is right... limewire is bad for gnet

stop using limewire right now and go download the new bearshare v2.2.5

Also, go to bearshare.net because this forum is all flames and lame people that don't know what the **** they are talking about... so its best to leave this forsaken place...

Hi Kutulus!

I know you love bearshare, I know you have been a member of BSTT - but you forgot one point:

Gnutella is a "open source" projekt! Bearshare is not alone and bearshare cannot exists without the other clients (like Limewire), you should know this...

And flaming on each other is so stupid...

I like bearshare too but I know we are one community!

Morgwen

Morgwen October 16th, 2001 12:51 AM

Re: Re: IT'S YOUR FAULT!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by chr_rossi
Hallo:

it is not easy to defend Vinnie here, but also I feel you shot a little over the target also, if I may say so.

His (Vinnies) attitude is for sure not the best *ahem* , but it is impossible for me to complain about the niveau of his posts and then 'lower' me down, down to exactly the same flaming style he did so often.

I do not believe it is necessary to insult him, I can not see the sense in starting flame wars. If we do, nobody is helped, not us, not the gnutella community, and no newbie also. And I do not like, while reading threads, to sift out all the insults regardless the sides and my sympathies to harvest a little bit of information at last.

I became a gnucleus user last week, and I have to admit that this decision consisted 20% out of unresolved issues and 70% dislike of his attitudes*, and his endless insulting. This was no joy for me, no cheap revenge, I pitied him for he wounded him all by himself.

So, think, do you want to wound your point of view by insulting back?

Please do not take this as offence, it is not meaned so!

Greetings, and a lucky week!


*You wonder about the missing 10%? Easy: Calculating was never my strongest side :-)

Yes,

I have to agree. If Vinnie, and especially Kutulus, don´t stop flaming on other users who critize them - more bearshare user will go to Limewire etc.

Morgwen


For all german people:

There is a german bearshare forum, we here all your critic without flaming on you!

Try it:

http://bearshare.de

Morgwen

Moak October 16th, 2001 03:01 AM

Yeah man! What I really appreaciate, that the german Bearshare forum is the most friendly forum I have ever seen! There are no flames, aggresive people, no fanatics, but open discussions all about gnutella and P2P software. Also it's well moderated. Believe me it's a shame it's only in german language. :)

Vinnie October 24th, 2001 07:29 AM

LimeWire
 
LimeWire is not hurting the GNet anymore, this post is quite old.

There were some questionable behaviors but apparently they were unintentional defects and have been resolved.

Therefore this thread is moot.

Morgwen October 24th, 2001 08:35 AM

Re: LimeWire
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Vinnie
LimeWire is not hurting the GNet anymore, this post is quite old.

There were some questionable behaviors but apparently they were unintentional defects and have been resolved.

Therefore this thread is moot.

May be this thread is moot...

But the flames and hate don´t stop:

http://bearshare.net/forum/showthrea...&threadid=6360

Kutulus just act and do not use his head...

Morgwen

P.S.:

Vinnie if you speak some german visit us! :D

Unregistered October 24th, 2001 09:05 AM

Ignore Kultus, that's it.
Don't feed the trolls, eat popcorn.

Morgwen October 24th, 2001 09:14 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Ignore Kultus, that's it.
Don't feed the trolls, eat popcorn.

May be you are right...

Morgwen


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