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Unregistered June 19th, 2002 09:45 PM

New Client: Shareaza*
 
Shareaza appears to be a player in the Gnutella clients arena. It is supposed to be ad-free and spyware-free and boasts a nice feature set. Check it out here:

http://www.shareaza.com/

ursula June 19th, 2002 11:13 PM

Re: New Client: Shareaza
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Shareaza appears to be a player in the Gnutella clients arena. It is supposed to be ad-free and spyware-free and boasts a nice feature set. Check it out here:

http://www.shareaza.com/

Thanks for the tip ;)

I am using it now, and it seems a very nifty package!
Time will tell more, obviously, but first impressions are very, very good.

I've only downloaded, though, so far. But hey, I've only had my shared files hashed for about 10 minutes :eek:

Wonder why they didn't call it Shareazad?
Guess they didn't want the word ad in their name! :p

ursula June 20th, 2002 12:04 AM

Weirdness.......
I still have not uploaded anything, which is definitely not normal.
I usually average 10-20 uploaded files per hour......
Must be something that I have not yet properly configured
:confused:

But, downloading like crazy! Amazing, really!

Anyone else out there with any experience using Shareaza?
I have a feeling that this one could quickly become popular.

X_Man June 20th, 2002 06:56 AM

no uploads here either.
but it sure is nice

Paradog June 20th, 2002 07:33 AM

I dont like the name :)
Shereazad would be better indeed

Taliban June 20th, 2002 08:28 AM

No uploads? - If that's true I'll be blocking that one as well as Qtrax.

Unregistered June 20th, 2002 04:32 PM

spams the network to get you those files

As usual for your posts, Mr. 64.24.x.x.x , you believe you have made some great point when in fact you are only displaying your arrogant ignorance. Let's see your evidence which you have personally collected and which you use to justify your comments here.
You are one of the bad one's around here who for some foolish reason believes himself to be anonymous. You are now tracked.
Cool it with the negativity. I said 'please' the first time I asked you this....... there will be no repeat of that word.

ursula June 21st, 2002 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taliban
No uploads? - If that's true I'll be blocking that one as well as Qtrax.
Don't understand why, but after having Shareaza running for about one hour, the uploads started - and they haven't stopped since then - it is working similar to Gnucleus for me in regards to uploads...... non-stop!
It's definitely no leech!
I think it's an Australian effort but with the site in Canada?
(Maybe to reduce ping time problems for the mass of users?)
Anyway, it sure is an interesting client..... still learning how to drive it!
Was there no pre-warning or notice that this was coming?

There are many things to like about it..... must be something wrong somewhere, hmmmmmm? ;)
Also note that there seems to be, in the hours I have been able to observe, a very much more general spread of connects to different clients..... no clustering or grouping! Nice.

Unregistered June 21st, 2002 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ursula
As usual for your posts, Mr. 64.24.x.x.x , you believe you have made some great point when in fact you are only displaying your arrogant ignorance. Let's see your evidence which you have personally collected and which you use to justify your comments here.
Ursula, the God of this forum. What the hell was so wrong with my opinion of this client?
It's very obvious that it spams the network with more queries to get it's results. How else can it do this? Magic?
It's obvious to me, but since you are a "big wig" here, you should spend your time monitoring it to see how it gets these "great" results. I have better things to do and have done this way too many times to want to do it again, and no one cares anyway when you find this out because they all "just want their files".
So this time, you do it and let me know if anyone cares.
Yes you like this client, and now you won't let others post their opinion?
By the way, you are the one who is more anonymous here, I have no idea who or why they gave you moderator status, or who you are, or what your IP is but yet you get to know everything about everyone else here.
Power corrupts. I can't call you any names like you call me because you have the delete button, must be nice.
Also, where do we draw the line? What is too negative? Will you delete any post that has a strong opinion that isn't along the lines with yours?

Name calling, and personal attacks like the one you just made against me should not be tolerated. Strong opinions? That's just life. This thread is now logged, even if you edit it, there is a original.

By the way, a IP address only has FOUR numbers in it.

Morgwen June 21st, 2002 05:11 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Power corrupts. I can't call you any names like you call me because you have the delete button, must be nice.
Also, where do we draw the line? What is too negative? Will you delete any post that has a strong opinion that isn't along the lines with yours?

We have more than ONE moderator here... we all talk about what to delete and what not - and we NEVER will delete OPINIONS!

About your name callings, I donīt see them here, Ursula is a mod and has to respect the same rules, if not the posts will be edited too...

Have fun! :)

Morgwen

Unregistered June 21st, 2002 05:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen
We have more than ONE moderator here... we all talk about what to delete and what not - and we NEVER will delete OPINIONS!
Thanks Morgwen, you are one of the more level headed moderators here.
The name calling is the "arrogant ignorance" part, which is uncalled for because I have done the research on other clients before and have seen this already, so my comment was based on actual monitoring experience with previous clients. I know what I am talking about, just because I am not "registered" doesn't mean I don't know what I am talking about.
I don't think registering and adding a "title" to a made up screen name makes me any more experienced.
My experience and knowledge may cause some arrogance. And my frustration with all this probably causes some negativity to come out since no one seems to care about anything but how many search results come back to guage a client's abilities.

Also, I know I am not "anon" to the moderators, it says "logged" to the right of each message. I am not blind. However, having a strong opinion, a negative one, or even one that a moderator doesn't like is not a violation of the forum rules is it?
And now moderators are "tracking" users? What's that about?

Morgwen June 21st, 2002 06:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
And now moderators are "tracking" users? What's that about?
We donīt track users, this is a vBulletin standard feature... we can ONLY see the IP of the users!

Morgwen

Unregistered June 21st, 2002 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ursula
You are now tracked.

Morgwen June 21st, 2002 03:31 PM

Ursula means that the IP is logged after unregistered posted...

Morgwen

Morgwen June 21st, 2002 03:38 PM

Back to the topic...

This client looks very good! :)

Morgwen

ursula June 21st, 2002 03:42 PM

Listen up, 64.24.x.x.x

Have you actually run Shareaza for any sufficient hours to make your comments?
No.
I have.
I am far more than merely capable to casually observe the behaviour of this client...
I await your experienced opinion.
It is well-behaved and well thought out......
I think it is a real 'threat' to some of the established clients.....
Try it for a day or more and then make comment... not suppositions.

You have made comments which are nothing above knee-jerk reactions... Don't get me wrong, I am more than capable of behaving the same way, but this is a semi-public place and there must be some degree of responsibility shown towards others.
This is why your IP is most definitely on the siren-call list for now.
Hopefully you will like to remove it by simply being polite with others and perhaps, on a more personal note, counting to 10.000 before you post :p

ursula June 21st, 2002 03:43 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen
Back to the topic...

This client looks very good! :)

Morgwen

GOOD !!!!

Morgwen, it looks like Valhalla!

There must be something wrong with it !
It is like Santa Klaus lives !!!!!

Morgwen June 21st, 2002 04:19 PM

I hope this client doesnīt send agressive queries like Qtrax (I read something like this!)... we will see what our experts will discover! :)

Morgwen

ursula June 21st, 2002 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen
I hope this client doesnīt send agressive queries like Qtrax (I read something like this!)... we will see what our experts will discover! :)

Morgwen

Morgwen, check out all of the settings and observe how it handles re-queries.
It is, I see so far, a well behaved client... As I have mentioned before, it is almost too good to be true, so I can understand the scepticism that others may show for it......
But, I will NOT except unfounded and unproven negative comments which blast away at another client, no matter what or whom that client may be.
Gnutella Network is about development and it is foolish in the extreme to permit unwarranted attacks on new clients based solely on supposition and no adequate observed evidence.

If this particular unregisterd 'braiser' wishes to carry on his crusade, there are several established clients which are ripe for the 'roasting'. ;)

Unregistered June 21st, 2002 11:49 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by ursula
But, I will NOT except unfounded and unproven negative comments which blast away at another client, no matter what or whom that client may be.
Gnutella Network is about development and it is foolish in the extreme to permit unwarranted attacks on new clients based solely on supposition and no adequate observed evidence.

And that is your opinion, and a strong one at that, but being a moderator doesn't give you the right to attack my opinion using your "powers" to edit and even delete my posts.
Then you threaten me with some sort of "watch list"? Your power has corrupted you, and should be taken away.
You have only been here (by your registration) a month now, what gives you the right and the knowledge to say I don't know from experience that something's wrong here.
It was a simple comment and you blew up.
I still think your comments are "unfounded and unproven" simple, non technical observations that this client doesn't spam the network to get it's magical results.
Have you monitored packets? Do you even know how to do that? I am not going to do it for you, I would have gotten to it, but not now.
"this is a semi-public place and there must be some degree of responsibility shown towards others."
How about some responsibility shown by people who are given "super moderator" status?
I have not broken any forum rules here, are there any for moderators?

"there are several established clients which are ripe for the 'roasting'" another threat? What is this about?

Unregistered June 22nd, 2002 05:51 AM

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Moak June 22nd, 2002 10:34 AM

Re: New Client: Shareaza
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Shareaza appears to be a player in the Gnutella clients arena. It is supposed to be ad-free and spyware-free and boasts a nice feature set. Check it out here:

http://www.shareaza.com/

very very promising! thx

Moak June 22nd, 2002 11:15 AM

Rumors
 
Who is behind Shareaza?
Looks like they are settled down in Australia. Maybe connected with a company called CreativityCorp?

Taliban June 22nd, 2002 11:43 AM

Australian? Another reason for me to block it.

Morgwen June 22nd, 2002 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taliban
Australian? Another reason for me to block it.
Did you test this client? I think not... I think we should block you...

Morgwen

Taliban June 22nd, 2002 12:05 PM

No, I did not test it, I didn't test Xolox either, yet I'm blocking it, - just because I don't want the type of people who use Xolox (Gnucleus, Morpheus, GTK-Gnutella,...) to download from me (of course I blocked them one way only, so my download-experience remained optimal).

Being xenophobic is completely legitimate on the internet, all I do is making use of my basic freedoms.

Morgwen June 22nd, 2002 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Taliban
(of course I blocked them one way only, so my download-experience remained optimal).
You are a cheap copy of a leecher...

you call it freedom if you block others but download from them?

I think its better you shut up here...

Morgwen

Taliban June 22nd, 2002 12:22 PM

Well I'm not exactly blocking them, I'm just not answering their search queries...

Morgwen June 22nd, 2002 12:25 PM

You know that is the same... how they should know what to download from you if you donīt respond?

This is leeching... and this sucks...

Morgwen

Unregistered June 22nd, 2002 02:17 PM

Blocking non-LW clients
 
Hey, Taliban. Can you post the details of the file and lines in the LimeWire source you changed to make your client not respond to certain clients? I tried patching StandardMessageRouter one time, but it didn't seem to work.

Taliban June 22nd, 2002 02:25 PM

I don't know if I should really tell you... I mean blocking clients is not a nice thing to do (as the ppl above stated).

You can also do it in the StandardMessageRouter.java, but, - since the vendor string is not propagated with search queries (IIRC), you should also have a look at GUID.java (especially at the isLimeGUID() method).


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