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Neglacio January 10th, 2008 09:29 AM

ShareazaV4 And Shareaza.Com Are Fake!
 
The version of Shareaza, called ShareazaV4, currently maintained by Discordia Ltd on Shareaza.com is totally FAKE. It can install spyware and gives you a non-real Shareaza.

You should only update at http://shareaza.sourceforge.net

The latest Shareaza versions (2.3.1.0 and above) has security fixes for this problem. Please update immediately!

Read more at:
Secunia - Shareaza Updates Notifications Security Issue
Heise-Security - Hostile takeover of Shareaza
TorrentFreak - Shareaza.com Hijacked and Turned Into a Scam Site
TorrentFreak - Conspiracy Against Shareaza and Open Letter to the Recording Industry
Nerd - Urgent Warning for Shareaza Users
Slashdot - French RIAA hijacks p2p application's website
P2PNet - Shareaza shanghaied

Paddyreus February 25th, 2009 03:30 AM

WoW thanks...I almost got fooled

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 01:49 PM

Is My Shareaza Fake
 
I have Shareaza 6.0 . it is by Discordia. Is it the fake one.

Thanks

Lord of the Rings June 7th, 2009 01:59 PM

The answer to your question is yes it's a fake one. As Neglacio states in his first sentence, Discordia is the fake one. Present version should be 2.4, not above 3.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 365497)
A fuller explanation for Bearshare, a sabotaged ShareAza & other programs explained here The Story: Shareaza, iMesh, RIAA, and Recent Events. No wonder I do not feel inspired to buy Sony products any more with the Sony director a part of the RIAA & of iMesh. I think I read a different article which gave the direct link of Sony to such issues. The Sony director being a part of the iMesh story & of RIAA also, maybe one of the off-shoot links. :)


Jillxz June 7th, 2009 02:35 PM

Hey , just downloaded the real Shareaza and I must say that I like the fake one soooo much better. I love the player in the fake one. i might just reinstall it as I am having trouble getting downloads in the real Shareaza. Never did in the fake one It was more like iTunes. My most favorite player of all

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 02:42 PM

Well , my real Shareaza was very short lived. Could not get it to downlload. gave only one result and then would not download the song. tried other song downloads and gave only a few results , then would never download. hey , I don't have time for such nonsense. I want something that works. So , i am right back with the "Fake" Shareaza version 6.

Lord of the Rings June 7th, 2009 02:48 PM

um ... so why did you post here? Did you do a clean install & remove the old preferences folder or let Shareaza use the Discordia Shareaza preferences. That in itself would most likely have not been good for the 'genuine' article. :)

You sound like a very patient person. I guess you don't share files either right? Just grab songs & run. Welcome to the Gnutella 'sharing' community btw. :)

And as for iTunes, well everyone has their favorites. I use iTunes, have since iTunes version 2, but these days the program been a little rubbishy. Forcing changes on users. eg: who wants files named 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 title.mp3
There used to be an option to stop this in preferences, but iTunes removed the option for the user to change it. Now there's only one way to prevent it.

Peerless June 7th, 2009 02:56 PM

I guess this d00d likes spyware....

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lord of the Rings (Post 344391)
um ... so why did you post here? Did you do a clean install & remove the old preferences folder or let Shareaza use the Discordia Shareaza preferences. That in itself would most likely have not been good for the 'genuine' article. :)

You sound like a very patient person. I guess you don't share files either right? Just grab songs & run. Welcome to the Gnutella 'sharing' community btw. :)

And as for iTunes, well everyone has their favorites. I use iTunes, have since iTunes version 2, but these days the program been a little rubbishy. Forcing changes on users. eg: who wants files named 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 03 title.mp3
There used to be an option to stop this in preferences, but iTunes removed the option for the user to change it. Now there's only one way to prevent it.



You sound like a very patient person. I guess you don't share files either right? Just grab songs & run. Welcome to the Gnutella 'sharing' community btw. :) Quote.


Yes I am patient because if I wasn't , I would tell you what kind of character you have. And lets just say . It would not be a good thing.






Nope. Did a clean install. Just did not work. Neither did Frostwire. i have tried Frostwire , poorf. Ares Poor Shareaza poor. Fake Shareaza fair but best one out of the three. i am beginning to thinkl these P2P software is not worth the bother. iTunes isd only 99 cents. Not bad for great quaility. i will probably just stay with iTunes. Never found a better one yet.

Sleepless June 7th, 2009 04:10 PM

Well that's another funny preference. iTunes isn't great quality, it's decent quality. Also they really like their DRM and other restrictions. There are very few great "legal" download sites and by far the most of them are electronic music only. Sites like BeatPort, which sell 320Kbps mp3 and even in some cases proper FLAC for little more than your precious iTunes sells DRM cripled 192Kbps m4p files.

I prefer the real thing i.e. either the physical CD or a 1:1 copy of said CD.

Lord of the Rings June 7th, 2009 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jillxz (Post 344394)
... iTunes isd only 99 cents. Not bad for great quaility. i will probably just stay with iTunes. Never found a better one yet.

Great quality? Pfft! Great quality is FLAC which is identical to CD quality, not in a commercial format that throws away information to help reduce it in size to 1/6 or 1/7 of original uncompressed size.

A VM member of these forums gave me a variation of the authentic Shareaza she adapted slightly. It connected easily, found files easily, downloaded easily.

Not all pc's are the same, even if you own several pc's, one p2p program can behave totally differently on one of them compared to the others even when the pc's are identical hardware & software. That's a fact of life. So choose what suits your system best. If you're happy with a spyware full program that reports all your shared files, other details about your system reported back to Discordia, then that's your happy choice. :) (I'm sure if the code was investigated many references to reporting back to Discordia would be found. I've seen this before.)

Glad it works for you. But as both a moderator & admin here when someone who uses a SCAM version of a program posts here, appearing innocent initially then gives the 'go' pro thoughts about the scam version, then yes I was suspicious, thus my comments. As far as a moderator's suspicion can go, you may well work for Discordia, perhaps even a marketer for them. It appears you did not come to these forums for help, but to boost Discordia's reputation, pretending Discordia's (spyware) version is superior.

We do not support scam versions of any program here at Gnutella forums. That's always been the policy here. Whilst we might give advice to help solve problems, we'd also suggest getting the real thing.

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 04:14 PM

iTunes have changed. It now has DRM free music.

Sleepless June 7th, 2009 04:23 PM

iTunes may have some DRM free music, but unfortunately still in crap quality. 224Kbps m4a unless I'm very much mistaken. That doesn't even come close to great quality.

Try comparing one of those releases to the same one on a physical CD in a proper audio setup, and I'm sure you'll find a difference.

I remember when they posted blind tests of DRM music vs. "higher" quality DRM free music and I could hear the difference. Unfortunately I could also very easily hear the difference between their DRM free music and an actual 100% copy of the songs.

Lord of the Rings June 7th, 2009 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jillxz (Post 344398)
iTunes have changed. It now has DRM free music.

Yes that is true. Apple decided against DRM, hoping other online music companies would follow suit. But online iTunes music quality is still much lower than can be obtained from CD.

Have you listened to very loud music through a single wall? The wall filters out several of the frequencies & quality. Music sold online is roughly basically the same. m4a/mp3, etc. drops all frequencies above 15KHz & below 10 hz. Changes the actual structure of the music by adjoining similar frequencies, dropping some frequencies & boosting others, changing the music shape; this can be seen when comparing original with mp3/m4a audio bandwidth frequencies on a spectrograph.

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 04:34 PM

No way is it crappy quality. Some of the junk I downloaded on those crappy P2P software downloads , i would not even have. Some was not even by the real artists. Quality was terrible. iTunes sounds like a symphony compared to that crap.

Lord of the Rings June 7th, 2009 04:37 PM

That's fine, sounds like p2p sharing is not for you. Of course selecting the better quality audio files is something you are not educated at. 99c/song ... that's a bargain. Though personally I'd prefer to have the CD at that price. Fine if you only want one song off a particular album. But as you suggested, you think p2p software downloads are crap. So it's obviously not for you. Not sure why you're even bothering with your scam version Shareaza since it connects to the same networks.

You rubbish the genuine ShareAza, you rubbish Gnutella, you rubbish the networks Shareaza connects to, you rubbished me. Anything else you wish to say?

And we thought you came to these forums looking for help initially. We were fooled. :)

Sleepless June 7th, 2009 04:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jillxz (Post 344403)
No way is it crappy quality. Some of the junk I downloaded on those crappy P2P software downloads , i would not even have. Some was not even by the real artists. Quality was terrible. iTunes sounds like a symphony compared to that crap.

You are funny. I guess you don't know how to use P2P at all. If you go after low quality rips done with WMP or iTunes (the program) and the likes, of course a bought iTunes rip will sound like a symphony compared to it. But that does not make iTunes quality great quality.

Do you even own a physical CD and decent equipment to play it on?

Peerless June 7th, 2009 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jillxz (Post 344403)
No way is it crappy quality. Some of the junk I downloaded on those crappy P2P software downloads , i would not even have. Some was not even by the real artists. Quality was terrible. iTunes sounds like a symphony compared to that crap.

it is crappy in an audiophile's eyes (make that ears)...

yep, a lot of stuff on the gnutella network is cr@p ...and a lot is spam...but there are quality files at a high bitrate to be found...and take the time to remember a very simple concept...its for free (unless you were a big enough of a goober to actually pay for some sort of 'service')...the files on the network are hosted by the users...no 'provider' of the software hosts any files, as that would be quite illegal and open them up to direct prosecution...

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 04:58 PM

I came here for help. yes I truly did. I had downloaded the false Shareaza and did not know it until I came here and saw that Shareaza.com was the false one.. But I had success with it but I uninstalled it and installed the real one. After I had the real one , I had problems with it. Not giving me very many results when searched and not downloading the songs. The false one did. had no trouble with it and it downloaded fast. Anyway , I do appreciate your help although by the time you responded , i had already gone through three P2P softwares and had trouble with all of them except for the false Shareaza. No trouble with that one except giving all these ringtones to maybe 4 downloads for songs.


You are probably correct when you say I don't know how to use these very well. Could be true. I just have found none I like better than iTunes.

This will be my last post unless someone can give me a good reliable P2P program with a nice media player . Since as of now I don't have P2P software , so at the moment no problems . I will not post again. thanks for all your help.

Lord of the Rings June 7th, 2009 05:32 PM

I'll leave that up to others to suggest. There's many Gnutella programs to choose from. But learning how to pick good from bad quality music is a skill you should learn. There are many tips on these forums, sometimes limited to specific forum sections, but the principles are the same for all the gnutella programs, and if you wish to learn about them, worth searching unless someone wishes to suggest them. Here's one example where to find them. eg: How to find music, & Typical file SIZEs of Spammed Virus files posing as audio files.

I'd recommend two sources of music. (1) with due care using a gnutella program, using hopefully new learnt skills to find decent quality audio files. (2) using a genuine Torrent program, either uTorrent or Vuse (Azureus).

Jillxz June 7th, 2009 05:53 PM

Well , I think I have just found an excellent P2P software program. At least so far it has been just excellent. It is Limewire. It gives great download choices and also puts the song in my beloved iTunes. So what can be more perfect than that? Hope I haven't spoken too soon lol.:xeri_ok1ani:

OldDeath June 9th, 2009 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jillxz (Post 344409)
I came here for help. yes I truly did. I had downloaded the false Shareaza and did not know it until I came here and saw that Shareaza.com was the false one.. But I had success with it but I uninstalled it and installed the real one. After I had the real one , I had problems with it. Not giving me very many results when searched and not downloading the songs. The false one did. had no trouble with it and it downloaded fast. Anyway , I do appreciate your help although by the time you responded , i had already gone through three P2P softwares and had trouble with all of them except for the false Shareaza. No trouble with that one except giving all these ringtones to maybe 4 downloads for songs.


You are probably correct when you say I don't know how to use these very well. Could be true. I just have found none I like better than iTunes.

This will be my last post unless someone can give me a good reliable P2P program with a nice media player . Since as of now I don't have P2P software , so at the moment no problems . I will not post again. thanks for all your help.

Hey...^^ The fake Shareaza (an iMesh clone) is not even real P2P software, but some commercial crap.

As the real one connects very well (on my computers at least). I suppose you've never set up your PC right. Ever tried a connection test? lol, I recon it will show you where your problem is.

Also, the fake one is very limited to what it has got to download, while the real one does not. And why do you compare iTunes to a P2P software? What has iTunes got to do with a P2P software?

Maybe you should read the article on filesharing or P2P on Wikipedia...

As for a decent media player... try VLC, that's one of the best free and open source ones out there.

GeekStyle59 June 16th, 2009 07:48 PM

if not Shareaza, what would you suggest? Your response time is unbelievably fantastic. I was typing out what I understood about the static address info. Take it you don't want it.

Lord of the Rings June 16th, 2009 07:53 PM

There's lot's of gnutella programs to try. :) Your response surprised me too, I just moved the other posts into its own topic.

If your router utilizes UPnP then there are up to date gnutella programs that can usually communicate with such & open a port when needed for listening & connecting, etc. If your router does not have a reliable or any UPnP support, then not much can be done on that front if you cannot port forward. ;) You must have a static ip address in order to port forward a router. :) I do understand some ISP's are a bit touchy about users deciding to set a static ip on their own. It's purely a marketing ploy. Even when I set a static ip address, my external ip address kept changing every few days at least. Thus had the effect of a dynamic ip address but the internal address was static (stayed the same.)

GeekStyle59 June 16th, 2009 08:34 PM

This message has 2 parts:

1) I know there are a lot of programs out there. The question was, which would you suggest? In my first lookings around this site, it almost seemed to be a LW forum. Is that what you use? Does it require a static ipaddress, too? I just want a reliable tool that is not subscriptioned based. Good file orgainzation is a plus.

2) I found the default settings pl;us option 1 and option 2 for setting up static address "on devices in your network". That's not going to work, is it? If not, I really want another tool that will work for my situation.

Static: 192.168.1.1 - .63
Dynamic: 192.168.1.64 - .250
Reserved: 192.168.1.251-.253
Subnet: 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway: 192.168.1.254
DNS: 192.168.1.254
CIDR: 192.168.1.0/24

Static: 172.16.1.1 - .32
Dynamic: 172.16.1.33 - .250
Reserved: 172.16.1.251-.254
Subnet: 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway: 172.16.0.1
DNS: 172.16.0.1
CIDR:172.16.0.0/16

Static: 10.0.1.1 - .32
Dynamic: 10.0.1.33 - .250
Reserved: 10.0.1.251-.254
Subnet: 255.255.0.0
Default Gateway: 10.0.0.1
DNS: 10.0.0.1
CIDR: 10.0.0.0/16

GeekStyle59 June 16th, 2009 08:58 PM

OOps!! Guess I'm in the new thread and just found the suggested AVS link up above. I'll go study it. Thanks.

GeekStyle59 June 17th, 2009 04:56 AM

I went. I studied. I continued thinking thoughts I had already started and I can now -- pardon me Lord -- make LW work as effectively and speedily as the first service I tried. Where should I post my hints?

Lord of the Rings June 17th, 2009 05:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GeekStyle59 (Post 344843)
1) I know there are a lot of programs out there. The question was, which would you suggest? In my first lookings around this site, it almost seemed to be a LW forum. Is that what you use? Does it require a static ipaddress, too? I just want a reliable tool that is not subscriptioned based. Good file orgainzation is a plus.

2) I found the default settings pl;us option 1 and option 2 for setting up static address "on devices in your network". That's not going to work, is it? If not, I really want another tool that will work for my situation.

(1) I've used LW for many years, next longest would be Phex which is also very good & has some advantages over LW. I have tried the other gnutella programs but because I use Mac OSX, the other gnutella programs do not have Mac versions. That limits me to only using the other gnutella programs on a part time basis.

Sounds like you have already decided on LW as an alternative. If that's your decision, I suspect LW 4.16 might suit your file organisation desires better than LW 5 at present. LW 5 is still arguably in beta stage with changes, slowly bringing back tools with each release, & next they will be re-organising the library window. Though there are some things I do like about the separation of file types in LW 5.

(2) Most gnutella programs that have continued development until now have UPnP support, some better support than others. However, all will still require you to give exceptions to them in your Windows firewall.
Quote:

Originally Posted by GeekStyle59 (Post 344853)
I went. I studied. I continued thinking thoughts I had already started and I can now -- pardon me Lord -- make LW work as effectively and speedily as the first service I tried. Where should I post my hints?

If you need assistance, feel free to begin a new thread topic in one of the LW sections of the forums. :)

Here's a starting point to learn about LW: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/gettin...ire-4-5-a.html

For LW 5.1.3, get it here: http://www9.limewire.com/download/LimeWireWin-full.exe or even better would be the LW 5.2.2 beta: LimeWire 5.2.2 (Beta) - Lime Wire

Alternatively for LW 4.16: http://www.gnutellaforums.com/downlo...downloads.html


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