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Unregistered July 4th, 2002 05:56 AM

Please help, PHP programming needed for this forum
 
Can someone write a bit of PHP code to allow anonymous posters to post on this type of forum?
Some important information that helps Gnutella has been posted by anonymous posters, and this should continue.
Flaming is a problem on any forum but places like slashdot still allow anonymous posting.
The new idea is to simply "hide" a anonymous post, leaving only a small link that people can click on if they want to.
When you click on that link, it opens that message and presents three buttons, "it's a flame" "approve" "needs editing".
If enough DIFFERENT regular users approve the post, it's posted, otherwise it's rejected and removed.
Another feature you can add later is a selection in a users settings to always show the anon posts.

To do this, you may want to look over the code and developer forum at
http://www.vbulletin.com/download/
http://www.vbulletin.org/

Please help out!

Unregistered July 5th, 2002 09:18 AM

better start a new gnutella forum, for everybody to post and with good mods which sort the out the troll brawl.

Unregistered July 5th, 2002 02:44 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
better start a new gnutella forum, for everybody to post and with good mods which sort the out the troll brawl.
That would be a good solution for the short term, but a simple program mod would allow all the users here to help control spam and flames and the mods could relax.

Morgwen July 5th, 2002 02:45 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
That would be a good solution for the short term, but a simple program mod would allow all the users here to help control spam and flames and the mods could relax.
Are you a PHP coder?

Morgwen

Unregistered July 5th, 2002 02:48 PM

there is "Report this post to a moderator" (which only registerd users can click).
but hey... we should all avoid to visit websites where you get popups, blinking banners and forced to register. last is a sign for a strange policy and new visitors are not that much wanted.

Morgwen July 5th, 2002 03:09 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
we should all avoid to visit websites where you get popups, blinking banners and forced to register.
You have to avoid a lot of websites then, what do you suggest how CycloCide should pay his bills? Will you pay them for him?

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there is "Report this post to a moderator" (which only registerd users can click)
I am not sure but I think this has something to do with the vBulletin software!

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last is a sign for a strange policy and new visitors are not that much wanted.
New visitors are welcome, at least I welcome every user if registered or unregistered...

I think this is unfair, CycloCide offers here a free side he donīt ask for payment or something else, this side helps thousands of users... and you complain about some ads - download a pop up stopper...

And registration is really no big deal, what do you loose?

You should know that the mods of this sides here donīt get money for this and if the users are registered its much easier for us to overview the actions of the users and we recodnize the bad guys very fast... if you have better solutions I am all ear...

Morgwen

tshdos July 5th, 2002 03:41 PM

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Originally posted by Morgwen

You have to avoid a lot of websites then, what do you suggest how CycloCide should pay his bills? Will you pay them for him?

I will :D

Why not try a donation system instead of banners?

IMO, unless Cyclocide is on some type on impression system, it doesn't seem like these banners would draw much revenue. I think it should at least be tested, if it doesn't work... back to the banners. I would donate, anyone else?

Morgwen July 5th, 2002 03:45 PM

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Originally posted by tshdos
Why not try a donation system instead of banners?
If you like start a poll.

Morgwen

Unregistered July 5th, 2002 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Morgwen

You have to avoid a lot of websites then, what do you suggest how CycloCide should pay his bills? Will you pay them for him?

banners fine. read again: bad are popups, blinking banners, registration force

CycloCide July 5th, 2002 04:48 PM

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Originally posted by tshdos


I will :D

Why not try a donation system instead of banners?

IMO, unless Cyclocide is on some type on impression system, it doesn't seem like these banners would draw much revenue. I think it should at least be tested, if it doesn't work... back to the banners. I would donate, anyone else?

The donation system doesn't work unless you have user loyalty.

The banner ads are hybrid CPM/CPC/CPA.

ursula July 5th, 2002 05:09 PM

Let's invent the wheel!
 
I love all of this nonsense trying to find a way to avoid the death-defying dangers of registration here!
Complications piled on top of complications... absurd....
But, nothing beats those of you geniuses who think that posting your e-mail addresses is somehow 'safe' and registering is not.
Brilliant!

And.... a good one, really.... Contributions to support Gnutella Forums.... Wonderful idea! Of course, none of you would mind establishing an automatic payment system with your banks or ************ companies to guarantee payment of the 'beloved contribution' EVERY month, right?

Get real, gang. It will help when you're older. ;)

bobomon July 5th, 2002 05:12 PM

I find the value of this forum 1000 times greater than the amount I am paying for it's use - I do think that flashing red banner ad sucks though. . . :rolleyes:

ursula July 5th, 2002 05:25 PM

Hey, bobomon, imagine how many times the mods see it!!!!!!
But, it isn't forever, right?

Right?... Please tell me yes! :D

tshdos July 5th, 2002 06:13 PM

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The donation system doesn't work unless you have user loyalty.
I think you may be surprised ;)



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And.... a good one, really.... Contributions to support Gnutella Forums.... Wonderful idea! Of course, none of you would mind establishing an automatic payment system with your banks or ************ companies to guarantee payment of the 'beloved contribution' EVERY month, right?
Thanks for the description of a paid membership system which has absolutely nothing to do with the original suggestion. :rolleyes:

The suggestion was to setup a way so that users could donate to the forum IF they wanted to. They would receive no special treatment or anything. No automatic payments (unless the user set that up themselves). This would obviously have to be done through some type of third party service of which there are many 'good' ones available. If this comes up being equal to the amount gained by banners, maybe CycloCide can drop the banners (on this site).

It couldn't hurt to try it at least. What would be lost... you keep the banners up until you see if it works. If it does great you drop the banners until contributions don't cover the costs anymore. If it doesn't work, nothing lost just keep the banners in place.

Ursula, would you contribute ?

Unregistered July 6th, 2002 02:12 AM

Re: Let's invent the wheel!
 
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Originally posted by ursula
And.... a good one, really.... Contributions to support Gnutella Forums.... Wonderful idea!

Get real, gang. It will help when you're older.

It is a good idea, the only problem is those "older" people here are technically challenged and thus can't figure out how to copy / paste in a simple pay pal button. Too bad.
All us "younger" people know how, and we even see the potential of this, but "old foagies" that think they are older and wiser are set in their ways. Oh well. Alzheimers is also very common in seniors.
Younger people are superior, faster and better, so you keep your "I'm older" attitude, it doesn't impress me and as a "super mod" here you shouldn't be insulting us with your power trip.

Gratis July 6th, 2002 06:33 AM

Stay unregistered if you want but please just write something in the nickname box.

cultiv8r July 6th, 2002 10:59 AM

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banners fine. read again: bad are popups, blinking banners, registration force
I don't know of anyone that likes the blinking or "earthquake" banners or the popups. But there's not a lot CC can do about them.

He signed up for an advertisement provider, who in turn will provide him with the ads for this site.

He can probably restrict a certain number of ads, but not all of them. Plus, if he doesn't meet a certain "quota" set by the advertising provider, he may loose his account (some set limits such as a minimum of 50,000 ads per month displayed, or 50,000 unique viewers a month, etc, etc.).

If he looses that, he'll have to pay all of the fees associated with this site through his own finances; which may lead to the demise of this site if he can't cover it all.

Please consider that everything costs money. Some people even pay for the sun (solar electricity).

backmann July 6th, 2002 01:24 PM

Re: Re: Let's invent the wheel!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
It is a good idea, the only problem is those "older" people here are technically challenged and thus can't figure out how to copy / paste in a simple pay pal button. Too bad.
All us "younger" people know how, and we even see the potential of this, but "old foagies" that think they are older and wiser are set in their ways. Oh well. Alzheimers is also very common in seniors.
Younger people are superior, faster and better, so you keep your "I'm older" attitude, it doesn't impress me and as a "super mod" here you shouldn't be insulting us with your power trip.

Old foagies?????

Hey, last Tuesday was my birthday. I'm 17 now, and a "super mod". No-one judges anyone here by his/her age. I don't consider myself better or worse than anyone for just a simple number.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Unregistered July 6th, 2002 01:30 PM

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Originally posted by cultiv8r
I don't know of anyone that likes the blinking or "earthquake" banners or the popups. But there's not a lot CC can do about them.
Then he needs to accept that users do something against.

simple solution against blinking banners and popups is to block them with webwasher or similar tool. I wouldn't do if webmaster take care about there visitors. But bombarding them with popups and blinking animated banners is a sign "I don't care and please block my banners".

efield July 7th, 2002 08:22 AM

Stop blinking in IE 5/Mac
 
Flashing banner only flashes once in IE 5/Mac when you go to Prefs, Web Content, uncheck 'Allow Looping' under 'Animate GIFs'. This affects all sites but you still see the animation the first time. The ad still loads so you aren't cutting short.

Unregistered July 7th, 2002 08:55 AM

Back on topic:
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Originally posted by Unregistered
How about a link that sends e-mail to all the mods or something that the mods can easily click on so that those who want to post something important can but still remain anon?

The other thing I want to know is if someone spent their time writing some code for this, would it get used? Are you open and able to test & modify this code? If a patch file was generated can you figure out how to apply it? Is this the "full version" for the software? Is it the latest release? Has there been any mods applied so far?

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Originally posted by Morgwen
CycloCide is the only one who can decide this, perhaps you should send him a mail and ask him about this...

AFAIK that is the full version and its the latest release.

Morgwen


cultiv8r July 7th, 2002 01:37 PM

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simple solution against blinking banners and popups is to block them with webwasher or similar tool. I wouldn't do if webmaster take care about there visitors. But bombarding them with popups and blinking animated banners is a sign "I don't care and please block my banners".
Yes, that's what a lot of people do. In fact, I have a popup stopper installed myself. But the problem, again, isn't at CycloCyde really, but the one that provides him the advertisements and the advertiser itself.

Perhaps you've noticed this. Advertisers are well aware that ads are being filtered and popups are being blocked. It would be very ignorant if they didn't. So now you're starting to notice advertisements that are part of the webpage itself, in the form of dHTML. That is, you'll see Toyota cars leaving skidmarks on the web page, AT&T is having a virtual cell-phone on the web page (preferably placed over the content for at least 5 minutes). Luckily, they aren't here on Gnutella Forums. But I am very tempted to add "yet" to that.

However, I do like the suggestion some have made to use a donation system. More websites and application developers are trying to use this method now.

There's only thing that concerns me about the donation system, which is from the time that ShareWare started to become CrackWare (cracked Shareware, so there's no need to register). In other words, how many honest people are there still out there willing to donate? It's almost like the message "Share damnit!" in the General Discussion forum - honesty is passe, leech for your own good.

Nevertheless, if there's a better way to keep the costs of running this site down, let CycloCyde know or post it here.

Unregistered July 8th, 2002 06:10 AM

If you notice, the URL for the forum looks someting like this (taken apart so it posts here):

http://www.gnutellaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?

s=647b219b357b0c4a916dc515295963a6&forumid=5

The s= part is a session ID, unique for each time you come here, and is probably good for 24 hours.

If that number could be tied to a first name or handle that the user types in when he first comes on here, then it would be much less hassle to "log in".

Just a idea.

backmann July 8th, 2002 08:27 AM

If you are registered, you can choose to use cookies so there's no need to log in at all. Aren't you tired of having to go through that step every time you post?

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Unregistered July 8th, 2002 11:33 AM

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Originally posted by backmann
If you are registered, you can choose to use cookies so there's no need to log in at all. Aren't you tired of having to go through that step every time you post?
think once again about what you wrote, unregistered and log in.

Unregistered July 8th, 2002 11:35 AM

latest banner is poping up and blinking, uuuh.

backmann July 8th, 2002 02:05 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
think once again about what you wrote, unregistered and log in.
OK. You got me. Sometimes I need to think before I speak. I was thinking about other forums which I also used to frequent.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Unregistered July 9th, 2002 01:58 PM

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Originally posted by backmann
If you are registered, you can choose to use cookies so there's no need to log in at all. Aren't you tired of having to go through that step every time you post?
The step would be NOT having to enter your first name or handle every time you post, and NOT having to have cookies on for this site and have to turn it off for others because of the misuse of cookies by these lame marketing companies.
And you should ask the question, if there is a session ID here, why does this forum require cookies?
I have seen forum software such as ultraboard and a few others that don't need cookies at all.

cultiv8r July 9th, 2002 03:28 PM

I think what you mean, is that when you enter the forum, you enter some sort of name. Then for the entire time you visit the forum, internal links will keep a refference to that name, without the need of cookies (as long you follow the links), correct?

CycloCide July 9th, 2002 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
And you should ask the question, if there is a session ID here, why does this forum require cookies?
I have seen forum software such as ultraboard and a few others that don't need cookies at all.

I have no idea. Ask Jelsoft (http://www.vbulletin.com/); they're the ones who made it.


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