Bearshare and Shareaza
 

why can't unregistered not post there, can moderators give a reason why thoses forums are restricted?

Re: Bearshare and Shareaza
 

Because the developers ask for it!

Morgwen

shareaza you are uncool.

no comment to Bearshare developer (he is a troll and I don't talk troll)

thx Morgwen.

Mr. Shareaza is about 780.000.000.000.000.000.000 light years away from being 'un-cool'. And, that is on Monday mornings. Friday mornings it's a bigger number!

He is probably the best Gnutella friend you have ever had the privilege to encounter...

He simply does NOT want the hassle of unregistered poster confusion. Do you want him to be developing a sweeter client for you, or navigating through the sea of stupidity of unregistered posters? Time for the great client or time for you?

If you have a problem, he wants to be able to talk with YOU about YOUR problem.

Man, we are talking here about Mr. Open!!!

You have a problem with his simply wanting to come back straight to YOU to maybe help YOU or just shoot the 'stuff' with ya, than tough. He is open! If you cannot respond by the simple act of registering and then saying, "Hey, Mike....."
Tough.
The official Shareaza Forums are also Registered Posters Only, and this is not stopping 1.000s from registering to simply say, "Thanks."

no, give him a moderator and let the moderator handle this, keep "holly mike" free for serious things. you see, nothing speaks against unregistered posts.

He has to decide this... you can send him a mail and ask him!

Morgwen

I did here

Yes but I don´t think he read this forum here,but if you are patient you can wait... ;)

Morgwen

I vote for Morg!
Don't let ursula do it with her bad attitude against anyone who doesn't like the client.

someone please delete those 2 posts it don't work here, and neither do I. :cool:

Done.

Morgwen

Jus register!
 

If you want to post there why not take the 45 seconds to register and shut up already, I don't see the problem.

lots of tolerance and friendly people here

Xolox forum is now also blocked for unregistered.

looks like all the active commercial vendors "have a problem" with unregistered users, all the open source clients don't.

The Xolox rant forum is still open...

Limewire don´t want to close the forums, at least they said this some weeks ago and since when is Shareaza commercial?

Morgwen

hmmm. it's hard to know what Shareaza is or do I miss information?

Do we know what Mike is doing beside creating one of the very best Gnutella clients (and ad/spyware free too AFAIK). did he do all the coding alone, who did pay for the months of development, which company pays/owns Mike, what are his/their further plans? Sorry, if I ask too much questions.

Actually he don´t ask for money hove no ads or Spyware, so its no commercial client, I don´t know what he is planing for the future I can only speak about the present time.

Morgwen

yepo, you are right.

Doesn't this bother you?
How does this guy eat?
Does he get free power?
And why do you think it's only one guy when he's doing what a team at limewire can't do.
So the big question is where does he get his funding from, and why doesn't he add anything the RIAA wouldn't like.

As Moak investigated, he has his own company so he don´t need to make money with Shareaza. How many clients have security features besides Bearshare? I don´t know any other Gnutella client, wait and see what he will add in future...

Morgwen

You could think of lot's of reasons why people make a good p2p software for free.
As an investment for something in the future,
To show programming skills,(like the old XoloX team)
It could even be that it was made out of idealism or hobby.
Not everything you do has to be translated into money.:)

true raaf.

I'am just curious.

Me too, who can hire several programmers and not pay them?
There is no way that one guy is doing all this even if he doesn't sleep and if he says so he's lying.

He's not doing anything that LimeWire can't do, or has already done.

Truth be told, Shareaza is only a fraction of the existing, leading Gnutella servents, if you consider that stability and relatively low number of bugs is a feature.

Besides, a significant portion of LimeWire's efforts go into innovating - Shareaza does not provide any unique features or protocol enhancements.

This is not necessarily a bad thing, but lets not fool ourselves into thinking that Shareaza is somehow better than LimeWire.

I don't think you should try to talk ppl out of shareaza vinnie;).But it does have some features ppl have been wanting but I like Limewire better :) And some ppl also don't like java.so we let them decide

Let me clarify, I was comparing the TEAM at limewire with the suposed ONE GUY at shareaza.
And I agree that shareaza has just about the same features as limewire, but how was that done without a whole team in less than a few months?
Something smells fishy.

How did you know that Shareaza was created in "Just a few months"?

I think the unregistered does not know it, it's a guess. I would like to know it, who knows more, who got some answers?

From what I have heard through others, its got a ton of bugs.

Don't forget that a significant fraction of LimeWire's energies go into measuring various parameters about the network.

I just had the pleasure of returning from a visit to LimeWire in New York - they have a rigorous testing procedure that they go through for every release.

They also write small programs to capture and analyze various pieces of information about the network. The latest conclusion, is that the burden of query traffic has caused a slow reduction in the number of search results to a typical query over the last several months.

Some people like to watch history pass them by.
One minute your stats are correct, the next minute the RIAA is calling ISPs and your stats mean nothing.
What a waste of time.

http://msnbc-cnet.com.com/2100-1023-943883.html
"Barb Wire Networks, another start-up aiming at the business, was inspired by a 2001 Xerox
PARC research paper indicating that just a small percentage of online file-swappers
provided the vast majority of the content available at any given moment.

That company is now building a large network of nodes that will tap into peer-to-peer
networks such as Kazaa or Gnutella, in theory overwhelming this small group of content with
false files, CEO Ralph Clark said. That network will be online late this year or early in 2003,
Clark said. "
Large network of nodes?
Shareaza nodes?
2003? thats about right for it to be that popular by then.
Follow the money trail.

Our old friend Taliban had a vision about this :D
But at least for once, Vinnie and Adam aren't the bad guys in this story........... Anyway Mike still has to tap into the Kazaa network

Napster = Kazza = AG = DEAD !

From what I read it has much less bugs than bearshare...

Morgwen

I do.
I have some answers. Real ones.

Answers are not the problem.
Finding people around here who can hear through and beyond their paranoia is the problem.

No, Vinnie, you are quite wrong.

Further, and this is one from which you cannot escape... Either you have not tried Shareaza yet, so your words can only be irresponsible hearsay (Irresponsible because of your position in the community), or you HAVE tried it and our not being honest.

No matter which may be the case, a developer in your position within the Gnutella community SHOULD be examining clients - Especially any client which has had the impact of Shareaza.

It puts you in a very bad light to insinuate and make the innuendo you do make regarding Shareaza... It would take a blind fool to not see how quickly you are trying to implement ALREADY working features from Shareaza. LimeWire is now doing the same.

Now, when do we see 'queued uploads'?
That's next in Shareaza. Along with further 'goodies'.

Many more comments could and should be made regarding your words to date about Shareaza... But, is there any real point in addressing these things now, considering the time you have had to prove to yourself what Shareaza is? And, please, no words about swamped with development work.... if you have the time to attend the many forums, you have the time to trial Shareaza.

God Ursula, all knowing and all mighty....

Please tell us who pays this "mike" Shareaza author's bills while he does all this wonderful work for free?

It's a simple question and since you are the only one here who seems to know everything about this progam and "mike" and are not clouded by "paranoia", you should be able to answer this simple question.
Show us the money trail.
Mike has been given the chance over and over to answer this simple question and he covers it up by saying people must be crazy for asking.
I still don't see any features added that would help spread MP3 files without the RIAA or other big corporations being able to stop it. Where are those features that were requested?
Now I want proof. Prove that Sharaza isn't being paid directly or indirectly by the RIAA or by some record label to develop a program that can flood Gnutella to prevent their "IP" from being distributed.