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Unregistered September 10th, 2002 07:03 PM

Censorship
 
yes here in this forum, bad idea

Morgwen September 11th, 2002 11:28 AM

Re: Censorship
 
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Originally posted by Unregistered
yes here in this forum, bad idea
Where? Please prove your accusations. I am against censorship.

Morgwen

Unregistered September 11th, 2002 02:31 PM

it's the third time i mention a thread being deleted, no not closed or moved. I guess this happens more often when it happens a few times.

Paradog September 12th, 2002 08:04 AM

Yeah I hate censorship too

Unregistered September 12th, 2002 12:20 PM

Yea, and that's why it's getting so booooooring here and why people don't come back much anymore.
By the way, I started a thread about how booring it's getting here and it got deleted, so you people in charge better start taking away "powers" from those who can't control themselves.
Deleting a thread should take more than one person. The way it is now no one knows about it if the deleting maniac hits the key fast enough.
Power corrupts.

backmann September 13th, 2002 09:22 AM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
Yea, and that's why it's getting so booooooring here and why people don't come back much anymore.
Sad you find them boring. :(

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Deleting a thread should take more than one person.
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I believe in the autonomy of each mod, all of them are trustable.

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Power corrupts.
Now that's a strong accusation. It's just your opinion.

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Unregistered September 13th, 2002 10:27 AM

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Originally posted by backmann
Sometimes it does, sometimes it doesn't. I believe in the autonomy of each mod, all of them are trustable.
one single person censoring a thread *IS* dangerous in my eyes. Mods can still comment, close or move threads. doesnt matter if someone could be trusted or not, censorhsip is censorship. And it's is bad.

Morgwen September 13th, 2002 11:15 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
it's the third time i mention a thread being deleted, no not closed or moved. I guess this happens more often when it happens a few times.
Give me more infos.

If you are talking about a Xolox thread... this was an accident by one of our mods.

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one single person censoring a thread *IS* dangerous in my eyes. Mods can still comment, close or move threads. doesnt matter if someone could be trusted or not, censorhsip is censorship. And it's is bad.
Yes, I agree.

Morgwen

Morgwen September 13th, 2002 11:25 PM

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Originally posted by bpmax
Don't think for even a second that it was me that started this thread, Morgwen... although I'm sure you have already confirmed that it's not.
I know I checked the IPs...


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However, this thread is an example. I like the way you re-opened the thread after it's closure to make your comments that could not be answered to. (and you closed it again immediately after saying your piece.) This is probably along the lines of what Unreg is referring to.
As a mod I can post even in closed threads, there is no need to open it...

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Funny... every time ya'll get this complaint, it's like it's the first time you ever heard it. Amazing!
No, its not the first time I heard it, but I WANT PROVES... your are whining about a thread where you and Peerless started to make trouble and we edited it. Next time I will delete your comments and donīt dicuss two weeks about it. We have simple rules here, NOBODY IS ALLOWED TO ATTACK OTHER USERS. If you think you are something special you should search for an other board where the mods think your insults are the best what could happen...

Btw I moved the thread to the trashcan, yes I know you will call it now censorship... so start your whining about it, for me the discussion is OVER.

Do not cross the line...

Morgwen

Unregistered September 14th, 2002 09:14 AM

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Originally posted by backmann

I believe in the autonomy of each mod, all of them are trustable.

all? and what happened to the deleted threads?

Unregistered September 14th, 2002 12:01 PM

DO NOT CROSS THE LINE!!!!!!!

ok, why don't you define a line in detail so we can know what not to cross.

seems to me anything against this board or a mod who has a quick delete finger is "crossing".

you think you can define something in detail? you think the mods here can follow that rule? how can we check up on mods who delete/edit all the time? how do we know a thread got deleted if it's gone? how can YOU know? are you sure?

do you have a plan to add some excitement here if you stop all our fun with your silly rules?

boorrrring!

Morgwen September 14th, 2002 12:20 PM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
DO NOT CROSS THE LINE!!!!!!!

ok, why don't you define a line in detail so we can know what not to cross.

ITS VERY SIMPLE DO NOT INSULT OTHERS AND DO NOT SPAM!!!

These are the basic rules, I think its not very hard to understand...

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seems to me anything against this board or a mod who has a quick delete finger is "crossing".
Yes of course I am the mod who is known as MR. CENSORSHIP!!! :rolleyes:

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how can we check up on mods who delete/edit all the time?
You donīt need to check anything here, we have enough mods who watch for this...

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how can YOU know?
Normally we MOVE the threads to the trashcan and delete them later...

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do you have a plan to add some excitement here if you stop all our fun with your silly rules?
I donīt know which silly rules you mean??? If you think its OK to insult other users its better for you to search for an other board.

FLAMING IS NO FUN!!!

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boorrrring!
If you think this is boring here go to bearshare.net the people fight there every day (I think I suggested this to you some time ago...), we are a boring BUT FRIENDLY forum...

Morgwen

Unregistered September 15th, 2002 09:54 AM

compared to bearshare.net everything is friendly :)
and Morgwen you are not a bad mod!

Unregistered September 16th, 2002 01:04 AM

Not all the mods agree with your rules and delete for many reasons, mostly emotional.
See this
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=15419

Then tell me someone applied your rules before closing and now removing a thread?

And how does a thread about how boring its become here get deleted when your rules were not violated?

Very few things should get deleted or closed and things should be allowed to run their course. Plus it's fun to watch how it turns out.

Morgwen September 16th, 2002 03:46 AM

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Originally posted by Unregistered
Not all the mods agree with your rules and delete for many reasons, mostly emotional.
See this
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=15419

Mr. Unregistered before you claim such things do some investigation...

bpmax is whining for several days now that we move and delete his "very helpfull" threads - the truth is that he and his friend Peerless made trouble - ALL mods agreed to the actions against him.

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And how does a thread about how boring its become here get deleted when your rules were not violated?
There is also a good reason for this, I explained this to the thread starter.

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Very few things should get deleted or closed and things should be allowed to run their course.
Every forum has his rules and delete threads, the easiest way to avoid it is to follow the rules!!!

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Plus it's fun to watch how it turns out.
No, its no fun to watch mature people acting like three year old kids and flame at each other, if you have fun in such stuff VISIT BEARSHARE.NET!

Over and out.

Morgwen

Morgwen September 16th, 2002 05:34 AM

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Originally posted by Peerless


Man...you just can't leave off of me, can you?..

Tell you what...I get the f*****g point.

Look at my sig., and take it to heart!

C ya! Exit stage left....

:confused:

I can leave off you... but look here the people are referring to your and bpmaxīs accusations against us... what do you expect now? Should I say he is right and you are a polite guy? Perhaps you can tell him to drop this discussion?

Its funny you are mature enough to flame other people but you arenīt mature enough that you can live with critic...

MY LAST REPLY TO THIS DISCUSSION!!!

Morgwen

RaaF September 17th, 2002 02:11 PM

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Originally posted by bpmax



I never mentioned the donations before, as I thought that it would be seen as nothing but a "stroke" to myself in the eyes of the readers of this forum. Now, I feel that ppl like you want to make me not renew my donation for this college year. I have yet to sign the papers... and after meeting you Morgwen, I have a hard time doing so.


Hehehe, Morg never knew you could disrupt American college funds !

And for you bpmax, with posts like this you make a fool of yourself, stop whining about money, and if you can afford to pay several grand to education, that means, you pulled a lot more out of the society you live in, I see it as your duty to give some back, witout whining on how to spend it.

fluffyfluff1 September 17th, 2002 02:20 PM

I am new to this forum and I will not be back. I happen to know of Peerless and bpmax from other forums. And I happen to think very highly of both of them.

fluffyfluff1 September 17th, 2002 02:22 PM

BTW... Moderators please ban me.

Unregistered September 17th, 2002 09:40 PM

Tithing
 
[thread edited because of the racistic remarks]

RaaF September 18th, 2002 08:09 AM

Hey bpmax, you have the "gift" to draw strange conclusions from my words .

Sephiroth September 18th, 2002 08:11 AM

As for the whole college issue.. Since im a college student myself typing this in my dorm room right now i agree that if i was to donate money i would want to go to education because thats what i donated the money for.

But this is a ligitimate issue and which does affect all p2p programs especially gnutella users who were regular loyal and good gnutella users before all of a suddent are cut off. That is not good for a decentralized network like gnutella.. So i dont think that the should have been deleted, maybe clsoed or even split out the insulting into a seperate thread and close that, but this isnt the only P2P forum on the internet and this isnt the only gnutella forum on the internet either.

Anyways what im shocked is the lack of options that students have.. For alot of things. I and i think many other students would be happy just to have a different choice for internet, I think students would be able pay extra for unblocked service to add on to the current costs which is included in rent. Or why dont universities coorporate with or take bids from cable/phone companies to offer students dsl or cable internet connection for the smester?

It wouldnt be that hard to do and really it benifits everyone.. The univerisity could use the extra fees for more bandwidth to support it or even get commission from the phone/cable companies for people who use that on campus which wouldnt use any lan bandwidth. Students would get what they want and they get a alternative when now they really dont have any.

Morgwen September 18th, 2002 10:07 AM

Bpmax I said what I think in the last PM, I have nothing to add in public.

Morgwen

Iamnacho September 19th, 2002 06:37 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
Certainly several servers can be set aside for a form of "deluxe" service, which could make the students exclusively doing homework free to do so, without being bogged down by filesharing use. I
i have been to many college campus's and have never used a system that was bogged down enough to disrupt learning. sure there are some that were slower than others, but not due 100% to filesharing. In fact I know of one college in particular that set up a section of its network just to let student share files over its LAN.

RaaF September 19th, 2002 11:36 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax

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Hehehe, Morg never knew you could disrupt American college funds !



Strange conclusions from your words? Your above statement speaks for itself. That idea was somehow funny to you... period. Care to dispute your own words?

bpmax, I do think it is funny (but perhaps the word silly would have been a better choise) that if a German posts on a P2P forum, a American then reconciders his donations to AMERICAN education.

Sephiroth September 19th, 2002 11:57 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax

Thank you SO MUCH for your input Sephiroth! I will do my very best to see that your ideas are put to good use here in my town. I'll be sure to let you know how it goes!

Sure, like i say what i am most shocked about is the lack of options that students really have.. Hopefully it will be successful and take off elsewheres like the university of florida. If students want to use file sharing programs, and use up more bandwidth and etc. then they can pay to do so. You could also do what dsl providers do and put download/upload caps and have different price plans. The more flexible it is the better it would be that way the more bandwidth a person wants the more they can pay for it.

Iamnacho bandwidth over lan isnt used nearly as much as internet bandwidth.. Plus i think that those people would rather be able to use file sharing programs on the internet and not the lan too..

efield September 19th, 2002 06:08 PM

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Originally posted by Sephiroth
Iamnacho bandwidth over lan isnt used nearly as much as internet bandwidth.
In terms of how much is used as a percentage of the total available. Also, a university generally pays nothing for LAN bandwidth used but the Internet connection is the expensive part.

RaaF September 19th, 2002 11:23 PM

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Raaf has CLEARLY stepped over the line here.


RaaF September 20th, 2002 12:55 AM

Doesn't take much to keep you going........:D

backmann September 21st, 2002 10:49 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
By the way... great use of forum bandwidth there, Raaf.
Weren't you and Peerless those who attached all those little gifs to your posts? :rolleyes:

Be cool :)

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"

Unregistered September 22nd, 2002 04:32 AM

please moderators don't delete my new post immediately again. let Kayaman a chance to respond. Thanks for your patience!

Unregistered September 22nd, 2002 09:21 PM

p2pchat down? http://www.gnutellaforums.com/showth...threadid=15770

Unregistered September 22nd, 2002 11:13 PM

this became a famous thread. :-) Unregistered aren't thaaaaaat bad. :-)

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 12:54 AM

bpmax,

are the smilies free to copy? I mean is Cylocide allowed to upload them on his server? Perhaps I can persuade him. :)

Morgwen

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
I'm pretty sure that's the case... but why waste the bandwith when others freely give it out. Know what I mean ?
Yes but I donīt think that this is a big problem, this are so small and sweet smilies I think its worth. :)

Morgwen

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 01:48 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
Could definately be arranged... I could quickly download to my machine and upload to the server or by link. Ask the boss and let me know by PrivMsg.! http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/ARMS1.GIF
I PMed him but he have to talk with the admi of the other side first, he ask for a link to his side:

Copyright Notice:
1.) I own the copyright to all the smileys in the cwm's smilies section of this page.
2.) If you wish to use those smileys on your website you must ask permission (i will ask you to put a link to my site somewhere we can agree on so as to give credit where it is due) You don't need to ask permission to just post the smileys on your favorite board

Morgwen

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
Sure thing.... but I get my "smilies" from so many different places.
I know,

I can "see" your links. ;)

Morgwen

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 02:11 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
Funny thing is, the regular Gnutella smilies (that used to be present under the "your reply" section of a post page, are no longer visible to me. I have no way of using them. http://pages.prodigy.net/rogerlori1/emoticons/EEK3.GIF
Hmm...

I see them... :confused:

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PS... I see a topic split in order here with this "smiley" stuff... maybe even in your private forums.
Sometimes its fun to have some off topic discussions, as long they are only "some", the last topic was different there were more off topic posts than on topic, I think we can leave it... :)

Morgwen

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
So what do you figure my damage is on the left side of the posting screen? Win98se/IE6 (throwing arms in air in confusion)
:confused:

That is really strange...

I currently use also 98se and IE6. Is your system up to date?

Morgwen

Morgwen September 23rd, 2002 02:34 AM

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Originally posted by bpmax
As far as I know... and I reformatted with the newest IE6 about 3 months ago.
You should update your system, I have done it a few days ago.

Did you change your security level? Try to lower it, right click on the IE icon/options/security. If this doesnīt help I have no idea...

Morgwen

Unregistered September 23rd, 2002 08:26 PM

I haven't been censored with my last thread, thanks !

backmann September 23rd, 2002 08:48 PM

Hey, nobody will censor you just because it's you ;)

Ivan
"In the dark we make a brighter light"


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