gnutella sucks
 

I haven't managed to successfully download one ******* thing, yes I do have a fast connection, and no my computer doesn't suck.

Which client are you using? If you're using the original one, then that's why you're having problems.

perhaps I was a little vague, when I say I haven't downloaded anything, I mean that every time I try to download something, it always says "timeout, busy, down, push, error." In the rare cases where I actually get a download to start, the damn thing terminates after I get 30% of it, and it takes forever just to get that much. GNUTELLA sucks, I appreciate what they're trying to do, but for now, IT SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!

What do you mean "Which Client" ?? Which one
should we be using !!?

There are a bunch of different programs that you can use to access the gnutella network. That is what he means by 'client'. If you are using an outdated client, you should upgrade. The older software is buggy and will not work well. Go to http://www.gnutelliums.com and find a good one for your platform of choice.

Gnutella destroys computers!
 

All the clients suck because Gnutella sucks.
Can't download, big deal!
Everytime I even try to install a Gnutella client, MS OS 2K freaks out. My internet stops functioning. My Control Panel craps out. I can't even copy or move files!
I'm forced to wipe the Hard Drive clean and start all over.
Gnutella sucks! Do not use it!

WHOOF !
 

Every time i try to dl my computer explodes :D

sum
 

so Gnutella sucks because your OS sucks?
OK
Gnutella sucks because you don't know how to read and find out there are newer programs available?
OK

it sucks you are right and 2.5 million of us are wrong.

2 million!!??
 

You know it's funny that I only hear about how crappy gnotella is from just about everybody & then this individual adds some comment about 2 million people thinking this "program" is the bomb-What A Joke!! Where, pray tell, are these "2 million" "happy" users at? Because I can't see ANY of them-and I've Never had a problem with ANY of the other programs on my system the way this crappy-*** gnotella. It's next to impossible to download any damn thing & I share the frustration of the people on this thread-& trust me, I am NO stranger to any of this stuff, I have a super fast connection AND a fairly kick-your-*** system, so PUL-eez, don't give me a one line ridiculous answer about how everybody here is wrong & you are right.

gnotella? make that "NOT-tella"

With all due respect, there are 2 words to describe it and they are: Pure CRAP!!! (& that's being nice about it)

sucks
 

you are not alone in your frustration-I've Never had a P2P program perform as badly as this one & I find myself sitting for many more hours than I need to, hoping that as I conduct another futile search that maybe, Just maybe, something will give way & I'll be in happy download land...BUT, that has yet to happen & now it is 5:30 in the morning & I'm tired. And Frustrated to the max!

I'm tried of people like you that bitch about gnutella (the network , its not a program as you were referring it too). Gnutella has grown to 40,000+ in the past 6 months http://www.limewire.com/hostcount.htm . The reason you cant download everything you want is b/c only 30-40% people who are connected to gnutella are accepting incoming connections and sharing files. That means that other 70% are downloading from that 30-40%. Why your download speed is so damn slow. The traffic from other connected hosts (searchs, etc) take up 50% of your bandwidth. Which is annoying but NO ONE can help that at the moment. Gnutella client developers are working on that as we speak. Then people with dsl/cable or higher connections like to set the download speeds to 0.0KB/s or just dont know how to manager their bandwidth with host connections, TTL, download, and upload counts. I'm on a modem connected @ 26,400kbps that is slow as hell. But I still manage to share and download files. The best client is LimeWire. I'm currently using LimeWire 1.4b and I share around ~120 files. I get ~50% download success. My setup is this.....I have MY TTL set to 10 and my MAX TTL 10. I have my HOST CONNECTIONS set to 2. Upload speed set to 3.5KB/s. Max Uploads 1 and Upload Per Person 1. Downloads 2. I've noticed when I get a excellent (1,000+) amount of search results when I'm connected to ~50+ TBs (both/or) 1500+ hosts. Just start LimeWire and come back in ~5 minutes to establish good connections. With the search results, LimeWire has this great feature called GROUPING. When more then one host has the same file (ex: the band - song.mp3). It'll show multiple search results according to that filename. Which means....if you download from that GROUPING (ex: multiple 10), you'll have a greater download succession rate. If you look @ http://www.limewire.com/hostcount.htm. You'll see the peak times for searching are between 8am to midnight during the weekdays and 8am Friday till Sunday midnight weekends. As if you havnt realize you can download LimeWire @ http://www.limewire.com.

Been there, Done that. Done All of that! I have DSL, which is hardly slow-& I have other P2P's that aren't a problem. I just like to try new & different things, unfortunately this "network" just isn't cutting it. Not at all.

Sorry, I just have an addendum to my last comment & that is to say everyone is telling everyone to not share their files...or limit to limit your sharing files. Please correct me if I'm wrong But isn't the whole purpose of this "network" is to SHARE??

Too contradictory, from where I'm standing because that's ridiculous-how can you Find files if Nobody is sharing them!

CONNECTION PROBLEM
 

You have a connection problem, your ISP is blocking you because we all get files at 56k so your kick *** ISP sucks, not gnutella. Figure out how they are blocking you and then get around it.
TTL at 10 gets you no where because most clients will just drop your packet if the TTL is over 7.
40,000 clients are on line at any one time, 2 million users are estimated by zeropaid.

sucks / doesn't suck -> be constructive
 

well, this might be wasting my time, but i will give it a try ...

instead of blaming (rant), try to be constructive. i guess all the people writing here are using the gnutella network. and i guess it works for most of them. it hasn't necessarily worked for all of them right from the start, but they got it to work. this is a community that will help you on - but stop blaming and tell us more about your configuration (system, program, isp) and we will try to help you on. or, if you really know a better alternative, tell us about. we will give it a try and switch, if it really is better.

so, talk instead of shouting and we will all benefit from it :)

Re: CONNECTION PROBLEM
 

2 million suckers may have downloaded this crap but I doubt there are 2 million actually leaving it on their systems.

It's NOT my system that has a problem-read man, READ!!

Re: sucks / doesn't suck -> be constructive
 

if this "program" makes a whole lot of individuals computers lock-up, I fail to see how that's "shouting", & there appears to be more problems than this imaginary "smooth sailing" that y'all are trying to sell.

Give me a break!

stop whining. it makes you sound gay (not intelligent).

Well I don't know how your system is configured.
 

Since a week ago I've got an 176 Kbit/s connection on my old Pentium 166MMX 32MB and I've downloaded about 1GByte of programs, images, music and videos. The only problems were that gnucleus has the fix idea of crashing when the seti@thome starts or that limewire collides whit MSIE, after trying it works. Of course the speed is remarcable lower than in an FTP connection or tha things. Considering that there are GNU or free programs I am amazed that they works better than other pay net related software, such as most of the telnet and FTP clients or servers. Are you a lawyer? ;)

hmmmmm
 

If your having a bad experience on gnutella, i recommend using BearShare...

BearShare gives you the ability to sort the search results by QoS, this means you won't get a busy signal...

laterz,

-Kutulus

Re: hmmmmm
 

Kutulus, are you getting paid to brownose ?

Qos means nothing anymore. It just doesn't work. You think it does because of those pretty little colors, but its false and misleading information. The open source clients have gone beyond bearshare now, bearshare is old news and operates more like the original gnutella, trash it and the spyware it rode in on.

You should chose as many servers as you can and start downloading then use resume to get the rest from others. Qos doesn't work across all clients so therefore it doesn't work at all. Some people want to fragment gnutella by using proprietary protocol information to try to get a better market hold, greed is bad for gnutella so I walk away from support for any $$$ involved developers.

Go get Gnucleus, its free, way beyond bearshare or limewire, its remote control encrypted packet free, and the source code is available so that it can be improved easily and quickly. Greed is not involved at all.

The Gnutella network is the best since Internet invention!

Heaps of potential, lots of success already.

Yes, pains here and there, people, computers, ISPs and software are all a rocky road to perfection.

I yet have to find one client with which I am happy with.
But they are all worth a try and each one has features that others don't have and visa versa.

Best clients right now (my opinion):

Ordered by name only (not priority):

- Bearshare (use V2.23!)
(phones home encrypted, very stable,
Search window very basic. Do NOT INSTALL ONFLOW or SAVENOW! - or remove it if mistakenly installed).

- Gnucleus V1.32
Very promising. Crashes sometimes (if search results are
very large)
Good download resume.

- Gnotella V0.99.
Phones home on connect.
Very good information display of hosts and connections.
Resumes ok.

- LimeWire V1.4
Very stable. Java based, so a bit slow.

- PHEX (use V0.46!)
Stable. Java based. Amazing features.
Bit slow on connect.
Searches automatically for more hosts to get your file,
should the one you are just downloading go 'off air'.
V0.50 out now does not work good for me.

These are the 'big guys' clients. There are others, still growing up, but worth trying out, to give their developers feedback and a sense of reward for their hard work in spending time to develop it.
See, none of you/us will pay them anything for giving us those Gnutella net clients, or?

Since Napster has gone commercial (forced onto them one could say), the Gnutella protocall has exploded and is a great source of getting and sharing programs, text files, music, pictures or whatever.
Even just to stay in touch.
And you can make your own Gnutella Net, connecting only to your friends, use it for work or whatever.

Heaps of potential. Only some egomaniac public servants and commercial greeds would try to put it down.

JD

well said man, well said :) the client i am "happy with" doesn't currently exist, but there will come one incorporating all these different features. i am exicted while waiting for it ...

gnutelladoesssuck
 

I agree that all I want is to download some music, and this program sucks! How do you download anything???

All your questions about BearShare are answered here.


http://www.geocities.com/antibearshit

hate to say it but i agree somewhat
gnutella needs some serious revising if it will surpass things like winmx and musiccity/kazaa.

i can only get maybe 1/10 downloads to complete where as on the others i mentioned around 9/10 times. that's not including the ones that say they are available and never start.

gnutella is my last resort for any form of media too

The above user is 100% correct. I have cable and have no problems downloading and sharing stuff. Your ISP sucks, not gnutella. I have often noticed DSL users getting poor transfer rates when they try to d/l from me. Most of the time, they simply time-out. There may be some sort of an intentional connection problem between cable providers and DSL providers - sort of 'protecting their turf'. You should consider a new ISP if file sharing is important to you.

Reply on Aeroe
 

--
What the hell client are you using? Either you're using like, "Phex v0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.0.1", LimeWire 0.0 alpha, the brand newest version of CrashMaster 2000, or the newest version of the hit Finnish client "ajkgl;qb ajksl;n;bgjdfljaglkgj bakl; akjdfklnjkly", Finnish for "That is a fish." I can better results on LimeWire 1.6 in my dial-up, so who knows what you could get.

Kirby
[IMG]http://**************.com/ms/kirbykore/images/kirbywave.gif[/IMG]

Incoming&outgoing
 

Hallo:

[The reason you cant download everything you want is b/c only 30-40% people who are connected to gnutella are accepting incoming connections]

Not true, as far as I know; incoming/outgoing refers only to the 'establisher' of the direct query connection between two hosts. Once established, the data will flow both ways.]

[... and sharing files.]

That's true, I fear, but it is another thing ;).

[DSL .. dont know how to manager their bandwidth with host connections, TTL, download, and upload counts.]
Not all DSL users :-). But keep in mind that some DSLs are asymmetric and are thus limited in query throughput.

[I have MY TTL set to 10 and my MAX TTL 10.]
Is not this a little bit high? As far as I know most servents will drop packets over 7, but I am not sure with this.

Greetings....

There are other problems
 

--
The thing about chr_rossi saying they're bidirectional is true, but someone's outgoing connection is another person's incoming one, so can you see the problem here. Also, if someone isn't acccepting incoming connections, then a lot of pings aren't going to get to them, which is another problem.

Kirby
[IMG]http://**************.com/ms/kirbykore/images/kirbywave.gif[/IMG]

I AGREE .:)

use morpheus it's the bolox

Re: gnutella sucks
 

Hi Jimbo!

If your computer don´t sucks...

The gnet sure not sucks...

May be you...

Morgwen

Re: 2 million!!??
 

i know where all the 2 million happy users are......downlaoding :)

if you know so much, how come you're not a registered forum user?

gee, i wasn't aware that gay people were " not intelligent" , scud. do tell..

Gnutella is one community...

all people are welcome also gays...

if some people think they are someting special because they are not gay, its better for them to leave this community...

Important is that you share your files...

Viva Gnutella!

Morgwen