I have been using Piriform's crap cleaner or CC cleaner for almost 20 years now and it has helped me through a lot of drama. But in the past I have used another 2 or 3 programs that have been more powerful than CC, especially in virus cleanup situations. Remember XP? yes. My problem here today I am asking for help on is that I have lost the names of those other programs. I did not write them down on paper like I should have but are all over my desktop PC that suddenly does not start up. There was a forum long ago that helped with these issues and recommended these programs to me that really helped, but of course they're not on the net anymore after the introduction on Win 10. Would anyone know the names of some powerful cleaning utility programs that they have previously used? I'll keep my eye on this thread thank you.