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Unregistered October 20th, 2001 02:18 AM

the downloads are to slow..
 
I have a high speed connection, but if i go downloading a DivX (or other) from different Users he come's not higher then 10KB per sec. programs like Kazaa and Direct is it no problem what up!?

They upload is ****ed up!? or something else? i have try now 5 users 5 diffefrent divx they al slow.

Unregistered October 20th, 2001 04:01 PM

hey,

help deze arme Nederlander eens.

Greetz,,

easty October 22nd, 2001 08:39 PM

The realtime speed is'nt really that real to me, I left one Dl'in on about 3k, when I returned in about 1hr it had done almost 90mb.. but it still said around 3k.. My problem is that it seems to transmit as much data as it downloads.. I fired up atguard and to a single IP over an hour it downloaded 24mb and uploaded 23.5 ...why the hell! I asked.. the same scenario on Kazza uploads about 400bytes.. after the spyware is blocked..

And no knowbody was uploading from me, what I know of it anyhow?

This makes me wonder what the hell it's doing.. Is it checking download status continously??

easty October 22nd, 2001 09:06 PM

Little bit of stats,

Statistics - 23/10/2001

Group: Network Connections

Sent Recv Time

Kazaa.exe 343 1591205 6:05
Kazaa.exe 342 3769764 18:25


xolox.exe 3596340 3412730 1:18:08 < i pay ADSL:mad:
xolox.exe 5207499 4062065 1:18:19


I tried to compare file size, sent,recv. Not performance, obviously
in kazaa favour for performance. I find they're equal generally.

It would be a completely different IP for an Upload and therefore
should have Hi sent low recv, but in xolox this isn't the case..
Considering my connection is 256/512 it makes me wonder what
happens to my download speed when the upload reaches more
than 32kbyte p/s :confused:

XoloxDude1 October 23rd, 2001 06:45 AM

Totally agree, the fact that I don't have the bandwidth (15KB/s uploads / 100 KB/s download) and having people downloading as much as I'm downloading is hurting my downloads. If I had the bandwidth, I wouldn't be complaining.

I would like to specify the # of concurrent connections and the bandwidth associated to these. For example, 1 concurrent connection @ 7KB/s. Way better than having 3-4 @ 1.xx each.

And what is up with that display grid area?

Other than that, it's great. I like to no add popups (compared to Kazaa latelly), no account creation, ability to find alot more different things (than Kazaa)...

X_Man October 23rd, 2001 12:22 PM

Since XoloX runs on the gnutella network, a TOTALLY de-centralized network, your bandwidth is used for "running the network" like a KaZaA "Supernode" if you have to pay for bandwidth, you may want to use a non-gnutella program that has a server to do the search and indexing,
There are many to chose from at http://www.zeropaid.com

easty October 23rd, 2001 01:49 PM

The reason for the stats above were to show the diference between Kazaa and xolox.

When downloading 3mb on kazaa with no uploads the sent data is about 100/500 bytes

under the same scenario with xolox the sent would be 2.5/3.5mb..

The original Q. was why if there based on the same "supernode" infrastructure?

This is based over several days of monitoring not just a few downloads! Maybe my supernode is not used by the current user
base of kazza, but i'm central to the xolox network. I dunno??

XoloxDude1 October 24th, 2001 03:55 PM

In Kazaa, I beleive the option, 'act as supernode', is unchecked by default. While in Xolox, it seems it's always on (and there is no way to turn it off)

David B October 25th, 2001 01:57 AM

XoloX does not work with supernodes
 
Hi!

Unlike Kazaa (and others) XoloX does not work with supernodes. So there are no computers who act like central XoloX-servers.

However when you use XoloX people can also download files from you, so that's why you see transfers in the uploads-screen (visible in the transfers section). Because XoloX is based on the Gnutella protocol, there is also a lot of overhead information (e.g. search queries) that everybody has to put through. This is an average load of 3 kb/s which is why Gnutella-based clients are less suitable for modem users and this also explains why your computer seems to act like a supernode: everybody performs server and client tasks.

Greetz,
David

Team XoloX

XoloxDude1 October 26th, 2001 05:10 AM

If everybody does everything, wouldn't this kind of slow down the network? For instance, I'm on DSL (100KB/s down, 15KB/s up). 15KB/s is more than regular modems, but still isn't alot considering the files which can be sent. Whenever I'm uploading alot, it affects my download speed considerably.

In light of the critics about how slow download speed are, have you identified or found any solutions to it? I'm up on 3 days on a download, when surely, I should be done by now.

Great stuff!


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