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Unregistered November 29th, 2001 07:00 AM

Xolox being discontinued!!!!?!!
 
I booted up Xolox this morning to receive the message that Xolox was being discontinued as of 12/1.

DAMNIT. I've only been using Xolox for about a month, but recognized the framework as the saviour of p2p bandwidth and stability problems.

What gives? Who is suing you guys?

Unregistered November 29th, 2001 08:13 AM

don't understand
 
why not let it run without support? I guess this means will will never get a version that works correctly

Unregistered November 29th, 2001 10:16 AM

decentral p2p????
 
as far as i know, gnutella is a decentral p2p protocoll, that means that there is no server you can shut down.

so i am a bit confused that you want to discontinue xolox and not only stop programming.

and what about stopping the development and release the source code as open source....

xolox is the best gnutella client that i know. it would be very bad for me if it wouldn't work any more...

Iamnacho November 29th, 2001 10:16 AM

i hope this is just some kind of sick joke. i agree that it could be ran un updated. this program is very promising.

Unregistered November 29th, 2001 01:31 PM

no problem
 
If WinMX 3.0 ever comes out and it's as good as they say it should be, I won't miss XoloX one bit.

Unregistered November 29th, 2001 05:07 PM

Read the current startmessage from XoloX here:
http://www.xolox.nl/info/default112.htm

Some more links, a dutch court has cracked down Kazaa, Kazaa and Xolox come both from the Netherlands:

http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../11292001a.php
http://news.cnet.com/news/0-1005-200...html?tag=mn_hd
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/6/23107.html
http://www.webwereld.nl/nieuws/9357.phtml (in dutch)

Unregistered November 30th, 2001 05:53 AM

Re: decentral p2p????
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
as far as i know, gnutella is a decentral p2p protocoll, that means that there is no server you can shut down.
I'm wondering if it really will stop. They "ask" us not to start new downloads after that time. Perhaps this is just legal CYA. "Well Judge, We did what we could and we asked them to stop..."

Personally I don't see how Gnutella is at risk since it is a completely decentralized system. Napster was centralized and it died. Kazaa is mostly decentralized but they switched to central user authentiation recently (mostly to knock out non-licensed clients like the Open Source Linux client). This is where they made their mistake.

I seems to be that the RIAA has only attached centrally managed systems and I don't see how a Gnutella client is at risk. After all, the client is not good or evil, it depends on how it is used.

Unregistered November 30th, 2001 06:28 AM

Well, that's the $64k question. Does the Xolox client contact the Xolox servers at some point, to get hosts or something .. obviously, it is grabbing that notice that appears on the Search page from somewhere on the net. What happens when that http GET fails?

I guess I'm more concerned about how Xolox gets its host file. Most p2p programs go out to some service, like connect1.bearshare.net or some such. Dunno how Xolox gets theirs.

Unregistered November 30th, 2001 07:54 AM

Re: Xolox being discontinued!!!!?!!
 
http://www.zeropaid.com/news/article.../11292001a.php *sigh*

cheeze666 November 30th, 2001 12:33 PM

Xolox automatic updater?
 
Xolox has the ability to download updates when they become available. If they are forced to stop all xolox clients, they might build this into a new final update. The file downloaded is called xoloxupdate.bin It searches for xolox.exe, and uses the downloaded bin file to update it. I suggest you rename xolox.exe to something else and set it to read only just as a precaution....

Unregistered November 30th, 2001 02:05 PM

port 80 and host list
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Well, that's the $64k question. Does the Xolox client contact the Xolox servers at some point, to get hosts or something .. obviously, it is grabbing that notice that appears on the Search page from somewhere on the net. What happens when that http GET fails?

I guess I'm more concerned about how Xolox gets its host file. Most p2p programs go out to some service, like connect1.bearshare.net or some such. Dunno how Xolox gets theirs.


I have blocked port 80 on XoloX which is the http GET port for the opening page in XoloX, and it has not stopped it from working. As for where XoloX gets it's host file, it seems to be built in and only refreshes the list using a NON-XoloX server. This is why they had to release a version a while back with more hosts built into it when it wouldn't connect from the start at all. They had no way to update the built in host list. XoloX should work just fine without connecting to the XoloX web page at all. Just block port 80 and turn OFF the auto-update feature. If you can't connect, you can always manually add a host from within the XoloX settings section.

Unregistered December 1st, 2001 08:45 AM

DAMN
 
Well, now that it's 12/1, we have our answer. A box pops up that says "Version Expired" .. everything seems to work, but when you right click to download something, the download option is disabled.

I guess that's it for Xolox. I am really disappointed with the developers.

Unregistered December 1st, 2001 09:07 AM

Re: DAMN
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
Well, now that it's 12/1, we have our answer. A box pops up that says "Version Expired" .. everything seems to work, but when you right click to download something, the download option is disabled.

I guess that's it for Xolox. I am really disappointed with the developers.

I agree that the developers are acting like w*nkers to their users,never the less you can still use Xolox with 100% functionality as long as you have a firewall...just block HTTP ports 80 & 880 and Xolox works the same as ever.
For people like me who use ZoneAlarm Pro or ZoneAlarm and have had past problems between the two programmes then shut down ZoneAlarm once Xolox has connected to GnutellaNet.

Unregistered December 1st, 2001 09:09 AM

Re: Re: DAMN
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered


just block HTTP ports 80 & 880

Sorry...that should have been just block HTTP ports 80 & 8080

Aeroe December 1st, 2001 09:26 AM

what a bunch of losers... this was all planned

they just wanted a reason to stop the project, see how lazy they become recently with infrequent meager updates


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