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Unregistered January 26th, 2002 09:47 PM

Windows Installer Workaround -- SOLUTION
 
I have seen a few references to problems with the Limewire installer for Windows and I have encountered this since 1.8 (including 2.1.3). The installation works fine on Solaris and Linux, but I want to use this on Windows when I am stuck at a Windows location...

My first response to the problem described below was to shell out a few bucks for the Pro version in the event the glitch was with the bundled adware. This didn't solve anything (but I still consider it $8.50 well spent -- I really like that they've included the multiple-peer-simultaneous-download similar to what FastTrak networks/clients have.

<strong>PROBLEM:</strong>

<ul>
<li>[0] Double-click installation file.
<li>[1] InstallShield Wizard automatically begins installation progress.
<li>[2] Comes to "Downloading file INSTMSIW.EXE".
<li>[3] InstallShield dialogue pops up saying:
<tt>--
An error occurred while downloading the file
http://www.installengine.com/Msiengine20/instmsiw.exe.
What would you like to do?"
--
</tt>
<li>[4] Clicking 'Retry' continues to fail.

(note: Even after we fix this problem, we run into another problem with another installation component the next time we try to install. More on this next...)


<strong>SOLUTION:</strong>

The problem seems to be with the URLs that the installer uses. Or how it uses them.

<ul>
<li>[0] Open your browser and manually download and install the instmsiw.exe file from this URL:

<a href="http://www.installengine.com/Msiengine20/instmsiw.exe">http://www.installengine.com/Msiengine20/instmsiw.exe</a>

<li>[1] Open your browser to the following URL. You may need to do this through MSIE (ugh). I tried downloading this file (probably from a different location) via LimeWire.com's website FAQ and the file was corrupted and refused to install. The URL below is correct. Manually download and install it or, using MSIE, select 'open' during download instead of 'save'.

<a href="http://www.installengine.com/isengine/isscript.msi">http://www.installengine.com/isengine/isscript.msi</a>

<li>[2] Reboot your OS.

<li>[3] Install LimeWire.
</ul>

One additional note:

If any step of this fails, you may need to follow the steps to specifically allow access to DCOM for your installing user account (Administrator). The steps are available at the URL below:

<a href="http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/profaq">http://www.limewire.com/index.jsp/profaq</a>


<em>To set your DCOM permissions to the necessary values, follow these steps:
<ul>
<li>[0] Launch Dcomcnfg.exe from the Start, Run option.
<li>[1] Go to the Default Security tab, Default Access Permissions section and click Edit Default.
<li>[2] Now set the privilege "Allow Access" for yourself from the drop down list.
<li>[3] Click ok and close Dcomcnfg.exe
<li>[4] Run the setup again.
</ul>
</em>

--
S
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afisk January 28th, 2002 10:35 AM

Thanks for the detailed post. I will update the FAQ urls.

Unregistered January 30th, 2002 10:54 AM

I did everything you told here, but when I try to open instmsiw, it says that I have a wrong version of system. Can you tell me what I should do now? Please?

Unregistered January 31st, 2002 05:58 PM

I am running win2k sp1. I was getting an 1628 error or something like that after the instmsiw.exe and isscript.msi ran. I completely removed limewire and java, reinstalled java, downloaded and ran the instmsiw.exe and isscript.msi, then after reboot i turned off Adaptec, the programs for my mouse and keyboard, and anything else i could. Then i installed on a fat32 partition (i was origianlly trying to install on NTFS), and it worked fine. hope this can help someone.

afisk February 1st, 2002 02:30 PM

Thanks very much for the info. I would be surprised if the file system change is what helped -- I would guess that it was the install of instmsiw.exe and isscript.msi -- that's what I would first try if you're looking to implement this solution. It's also a lot easier -- Uninstall LimeWire and Java Runtime Environment, reinstall Java, install instmsiw.exe and isscript.exe, restart and run the LimeWire installer again.

Adaptec has also come up a curious number of times, so that might be it as well.

Thanks again!

Unregistered February 15th, 2002 09:50 AM

it still won't work for me. i keep getting the same error.

Unregistered March 14th, 2002 11:25 AM

Thank you for finally solving this.

I'd been experiencing the same problem with every version since 1.7c. The following fix cleared the 1608 install error:

Uninstall LimeWire and Java Runtime Environment, reinstall Java, install instmsiw.exe and isscript.exe from the links provided in previous post (choosing "open" instead of "save"), restart and run the latest LimeWire installer again.

Notes:
Adaptec was installed and running during the installation with no problems.

I am running Win2k with the latest updates and patches.

Unregistered March 31st, 2002 09:30 AM

www.installengine.com I can't get to the site at all, nor trace nor ping, a whois returns the name but I can't get there at all....

eylusion March 31st, 2002 12:57 PM

Ditto Send Me a PM!!!
 
Quote:

Originally posted by Unregistered
www.installengine.com I can't get to the site at all, nor trace nor ping, a whois returns the name but I can't get there at all....
Ditto... :(

Unregistered April 4th, 2002 04:43 PM

I have tried the afore-mentioned solution 4 times only to denied each and every time. I hope the developers can resolve this issue in a newer release, soon.

Unregistered April 8th, 2002 02:24 PM

I keep getting an error message saying to check if this is valid windows installer program. I have been through all of the troubleshooting things, dowloaded lots of things separately etc. etc yet still keep getting this same message duing installation. PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!

Taliban April 8th, 2002 02:39 PM

Please let us know the exact filename of the installer you downloaded as well as the name and version of your operating systems.

So far I have the hunch you downloaded the wrong installer.

Did you already download and install Java, btw.?

NealT April 11th, 2002 01:44 PM

Well, I wish I had good news.

I have Win2000Pro with all latest security patches.
I am the administrator.
I do not have Limewire installed.
I downloaded.
I downloaded and installed Java1.3.1 stuff as prescribed.
I already have the MSW...exe program installed from another program (GMAX) so I cannot install another one over it (or at least that is what it says when I try).
I get the 1608 error.
I downloaded the .MSI file just fine manually as you said, installed it, and it installs perfectly.
I rerun LimeWireWin and still it tries to download the .msi file, and sure enough, gives me the 1608 error.

Now I have tried to find this DMC...exe program you refer to but do not have it on my system at all. I to have one with the same front name but the extension is dll but I am sure that is not what you are referring to.

If I do not get this resolved soon...I am going to have to move to another program because it is getting too frustrating.


:confused:

NealT

afisk April 11th, 2002 03:21 PM

NealT-

I unfortunately don't think there's anything we can do to solve this, as we only have limited control over exactly how the installer runs.

That said, we do have an alternate windows installer for LimeWire Pro that will almost definitely work for you. It's not avaiable for the free version basically just because we didn't have the same motivation to make it, but if you buy pro, it's listed at the bottom.

I'm really sorry that this is the only option, and I'm really not trying to extract money from you -- I just thought I would let you know that the option is there.

Unregistered April 11th, 2002 10:39 PM

The thing that pops up for me is it wont download INSTMSIA.EXE. How do i fix that?

NealT April 11th, 2002 11:17 PM

Adam and all,

Don't get me wrong...if the alternate installer will work (99% probability at least ) I don't mind shelling out the money. I hate BS and the rest just do not have the features. I just don't like shelling out the $$ not knowing whether or not it will work.

:D

afisk April 12th, 2002 07:25 AM

The other installer is the NullSoft installer, which is about as basic as an installer can get. InstallShield can run into problems basically because they're trying to do so much, and the version we're using is the most recent one that is using Microsoft's new Windows Installer Service, which can run into problems. We use it, though, because it allows us to do nice things like dynamically download the JRE installer.

So, anyway, I have not heard of a case of the Nullsoft installer not working. If you choose to buy pro and it doesn't work for you, just send me e-mail at afisk@limepeer.com.com, and I'll refund your money. It also comes with 6 months of free upgrades, which will be nice considering all of the major improvements that we're working on. Plus it comes with e-mail support.

On the INSTMSIA.EXE issue, it's pretty much the same thing -- there's nothing that we can do differently in the installer to get it to work, and there's nothing you can do as a user to get it to work. Again, though the NullSoft one should work. Sorry about this. We're really not trying to force people to buy Pro.

Unregistered April 14th, 2002 12:24 PM

1608 Unable to create InstallDriver instance
 
Install Shield gives me this:

1608 Unable to create InstallDriver instance

thanks
linda
blondie@pobox.com

Unregistered June 7th, 2002 06:21 PM

Just a quick suggestion for those who have tried to follow the steps outlined above and have been told that they have the wrong OS when installing instmsiw.exe. I've had similar problems, but managed to solve them by downloading and installing instMsiA.exe (Windows Installer 2.0 I think) from the Microsoft website. I then ran isscript.msi as outlined above and LimeWire installed fine. Hope this helps someone, it worked for me with Windows Me.

afisk June 11th, 2002 06:48 PM

InstallShield claims this issue is fixed with their most recent release, at least for the majority of cases. It apparently happens when you're running on a network that doesn't use Microsoft's networking software. The next release will include an updated installer that should solve it.

Squarmy57 June 14th, 2002 12:22 PM

You know you people say that there is a problem with Lime Wire and windows and all that crap. Well then why the **** don't you fix it. Yes i know it is not that easy but if you started working on it a week after you found the problem, you could have gotten it fixed but no you are to busy working on the next version.

Unregistered July 14th, 2002 11:54 PM

Tried your workarround... Doesn't work!!!
 
Not sure which windows your talking about you don't say! I have XP pro and get the same problem trying your methode. In addition your directions may work for another windows platform but, make no sense with mine.

Unregistered July 25th, 2002 11:50 AM

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGG
 
OK.....I had limewire working just fine with my WIN ME. Until I had a HD failure.
Come here to reinstall....and I have gotten nothing but headaches.
I have tried everything mentioned in the FAQS..and here ..to NO avail, short of buying the pro version.
I do not want to pay for the program if it is going to give me these headaches.
It is worth it if I KNOW I will not have these problems.

BTW I get error 1625 error evey time

" DMC...exe program you refer to but do not have it on my system at all. "

Ditto.....

If there are other options...could they please be explain in simple terms? I am having a brain blow out :)
Type slow so I'll understand ;)

TY

Unregistered July 25th, 2002 11:56 AM

grrrrrrrr wouldnt let me edit..
Thats an error 1628

sherry July 25th, 2002 12:29 PM

ALright....... I am the poster of the last
two past posts..

I went ahead and purchased the PRO version.

After a few problems..all was installed.

BUT..even though I have the JAVA d/l as needed..and it's there on my desktop..
I try to run Limewire..and get *JAVA can not be found* system will now close....

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I really dont need these headaches...Been through a bottle of tylenol already ..;)

If this cannot be easily fixed...I will take you up on the refund.

Unregistered August 10th, 2002 12:49 PM

LimeWire Pro installer works better? NOT!
 
Hey guys. As long as you're going to be charging people for this, why not put a little effort into making sure it'll actually work?

I've paid for and downloaded the "2.5" installer for the Pro version from the site just today and am having the exact same problem retrieving from isscript.msi as others have reported.

The problem, though, seems to be that this www.installengine.com system isn't in the DNS! I've tried several different (known working) DNS'es, and none of them know about this system. Wanna give us a helping hand and throw us the IP address(es) for this name??

ripsrv August 27th, 2002 03:49 PM

ARG!!!
 
After all that the program just refuses to connect. I have no firewall and all my other versions of limewire work... What can I do!/.?

Unregistered October 6th, 2002 11:24 AM

I did all that you have told me and yet it still it says that it cannot find the file isscript.msi. I just don't understand. What is that anyways. I have done everything on the faq. I wish you would fix the damn problem.

rctempire October 21st, 2002 10:39 AM

TRIED
 
When i downloaded http://www.installengine.com/Msiengine20/instmsiw.exe
And it says WRONG OS OR OS version for application

What can i do to fix this

treylane November 8th, 2002 08:00 AM

isscript.msi install problems
 
ISScript.msi has various problems installing from NTFS partitions if the permissions on the directory containing it aren't what it expects. It sounds odd, but I wasn't able to install it from my desktop, but I copied the file to a Fat32 partition ( too lazy to mess with the permissions issues ) and installed from there. It worked just fine.

Link:
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=is...ftngp04&rnum=1


The bad news is that even though I got isscript.msi installed OK, the LimeWire installer insisted on attempting to download and install it again anyway, which of course failed.

Magnamundian February 26th, 2003 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by afisk
we do have an alternate windows installer for LimeWire Pro that will almost definitely work for you...
...I'm really sorry that this is the only option, and I'm really not trying to extract money from you

*rollseyes*

Isn't this just the way all internet based developers are going... at least if I buy something in PC World its easy to take it back, but your asking me to shell out for a program in the 'hope' that it will install.

Do you seriously expect people to take your product seriously when it falls at the first hurdle?

Magnamundian

leefoo March 9th, 2003 06:44 AM

Didn't see this sticky before and it seems to talk about what's happened to me, but it still is helping (see below).
Is there another installer? I couldn't tell from the posts. I'd love to try this program.

Foo
=================

Hi,

I am trying to install Limewire. I have paid the 9.50.
Whenever I go to install, i get" unable to d/l from www.installengine.com/cert/isengine/isscript.msi"

I have no choice but to cancel.

i have d/l and installed isscript.msi.
still no luck
i have tried going to that web page. no luck.

i use netscape and w98. i even installed ie to see if that would work...no luck.

i am totally stuck.
any way to manually install or any work around?

thx

lee foo

leefoo March 9th, 2003 07:03 AM

Hi,

I am trying to install Limewire. I have paid the 9.50.
Whenever I go to install, i get" unable to d/l from www.installengine.com/cert/isengine/isscript.msi"

I have no choice but to cancel.

i have d/l and installed isscript.msi.
still no luck
i have tried going to that web page. no luck.

i use netscape and w98. i even installed ie to see if that would work...no luck.

i am totally stuck.
any way to manually install or any work around?

thx

lee foo

vger13 April 10th, 2003 04:17 PM

ok i paid for pro..because the older ver will not connect anymore the ver of pro has the same install probs as i all these other post where is this other installer.... i paid for it and am getting no better results

vger13 April 10th, 2003 04:29 PM

i just emailed afisk to take him up on the refund...the email address is bad...returned


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