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Just a note to people deleting stuff that they download accidentally.

Personally I would remove the hard drive, get the largest hammer I could find break it open and destroy the disks, then throw them into the nearest, biggest, deepest ocean/lake I could find. Only then I would sleep just a little better at night.
I hope I have not trivialized the subject with the above comment but I feel that is the length you have to go to.

This stuff destroyes your mind with worry. Murderers get shown more pity -compassion than a person caught with this stuff for some strange reason, no matter how they aquired it, not that I say its necessarily right but thats the tragedy of it, if you are found to have it or you may not even know its there you are doomed if caught. There will be innocent people of all ages out there now not knowing it may be lurking on their computer in some form or other. It may be hard to differentiate between these people so law eforcement probably think sod it, do them all best safe than sorry. Do they let people off if they can tell it was an accidental download? or do you get done regardless. I cant bear the thought of an person accidentally downloading it and jailed for it, terrible.

I dont know if i could trust an eraser to do it properly. Systems seem capable of squirreling stuff away into the depths of computers that no normal person or erasers may normally find.

well thats my garbled waffle on the subject, after my similar experiances as that of many other people in this forum, this is only limewire what of the many people using other file share applications, or am I just overeacting.

[url="http://www.iwf.org.uk/"]Internet Watch Foundation (IWF), combating child abuse images and criminal material **************

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Just stay away from that stuff and you will have nothing to lose sleep over.

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Question traceable or not?

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And on a mac you'd use Secure Empty trash as compared to the normal routine. Or to make doubly sure a utility like norton's wipe info which gives you the option of wiping a folder or empty space to clear any traces of data.

I'm using mcAfee shredder tool to delete everything i remove, is this adequate in regard to above??
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Should be. Don't forget to scrub out free space too, in case the file moved around before you wiped it.
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My little advice for anyone in the future. If should you inadvertently downloaded one of the mislabeled files which turned to be a child pornography material - please immediately report it to the Cybertipline and law enforcements.

The computer crime investigator at my local police department (He is also part of my local county's procuestor office's computer crime unit) strongly recommend it to anyone. It happened to me once before in the past and I did what they recommended. Not reporting it is very worse thing that anyone could do in that situation, so please do the right thing. They will know what to do when you report to it and you wouldn't have to worry about get in the trouble because you reported.

Please report it or contact the proper authorities so you could get these sick scums off the P2P networks and internet.

Recommendations by many organizations including FBI which I posted in another thread awhile ago -
http://www.gnutellaforums.com/282823-post27.html

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The very idea that the state requires you to become involved as an informant or else be
falsely branded a sex offender is utterly unconscionable.

In states where prosecutors are elected the danger that a prosecutor would commit such a
crime is very real and has been reported to occur more than once in the past few years. None
of these cases were as famous as the crime committed against the lacrosse players at Duke U,
but that is mostly because this is the kind of thing that is typically done in the dark, out of the
press and public scrutiny, as both the falsely accused and the criminal accuser want it that way.

Currently there is no safe way to submit an anonymous tip, and if you try to do so while
maintaining your anonymity you face the strong possibility of the above crime being
committed against you. Not all prosecutors behave in that way, but in governments where
they are rewarded for doing so, some will indeed do so and are criminal enough at heart or are
so blinded by the horror of kiddy porn that they feel no remorse for their crimes.

Until that situation changes for the better I suggest that one either jump in or jump away. If
you want to be an activist then go right ahead and take your chances. Just be sure they always
know you are "on their side" even if it becomes obvious you inadvertantly turned in another
innocent victim of a mislabelled file, or you may end up on the receiving end along with your
victim. In light of this ridiculous situation the most responsible and safest course at present,
if you accidentally downloaded a file of that kind, is to delete it securely and move on.

As always, I suggest in the strongest terms that it is best to avoid sharing incomplete
downloads and your downloads folder. If what you share is always under your complete
control than this horror story can never happen to you.

I have always advised the developers of gnutella programs that automatically sharing files
before a user can check them is dangerous for many reasons but they always dismissed such
warnings because "it's good for the network". Well, now some years have passed and we have
seen some of these false prosecutions, many examples of RIAA extortion against people who
didn't know what they were sharing, the rampant spread of worms and spammers taking
advantage of inadvertent sharing to flood the network and accusations levelled against the
developers themselves of inducing copyright infringement by causing this inadvertent sharing.

Perhaps now they will take another look and think it through this time.
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Gotta love the law here in Kentucky -- you can screw her on her 16th birthday and it is all legal, but you snap a simple photo of her for another 2 years.
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can a child be charged for pedophile laws?
i mean its normal for kids to want to see other kids. its natural
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is it wrong fora kid to be seeing this
its natural that a kid would want to see another kid. so can a kid get in trouble with pedophile laws?
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these last 3 posts rather disturb me...maybe I don't quite get the point of me112233, but I think mr. animal needs to take a bus about 15 miles south and stay there....
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As far as I can tell there has never been an exemption for young offenders in pornography laws.
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In the UK is possession and arrest only proved by actually finding the material on the persons computer, or can records/logs from things like the gnutella network be used to convict entirely by themselves?
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Look up some recent cases. I don't think any lawyers from the UK hang out here. ;]
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As a UK resident you should be aware of the following case:

BBC NEWS | England | Kent | Langham sentenced over child porn


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I dont think he was using any p2p software, he paid for it and he was found in possession and used "research" as an excuse, doesnt really wash does it
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they can't be downloaded right, even if there are search results with KP vids they dont start downloading! so there's no problem at all!
i also possess a got damn KP vid, i downloaded a [edit] and its a got damn kiddy PPPPPPRRRN!!!!! :mad:
and now i cant download any vid that has a [edit] results!


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