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That sounds more like superstition than caution. Just defrag the drive and that
will scrub the last whiff of the picture out of there.
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now one quick question, if you reformat your hard drive doesnt that get rid of everything? including KP? or porn in general?
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Not always. Sometimes a format just resets the disk structure and scans for
obvious errors without actually overwriting and testing every sector.
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I've faced this problem as well. I qued some videos the other night and later watched them to find that some were KP. I deleted them. Then I previewed some of those still in que and deleted some more that were iffy.

I thought I was good, then I realized about a week later that I forgot to delete the file fragments or whatever. However, I don't even share my files, nor do I share file fragments, so do I have anything to worry about?

I also didn't know that a regular delete wasn't secure. So I guess my HD still has fragments on it. This sucks. I think I'm fixing to uninstall limewire. Too much trouble.
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A defrag will reliably scrub the remains. If you have Norton's software you
can set Speed disk to run every night.

Since you're not building or sharing major collections the authorities have no
interest in you whatsoever and even in the impossibly rare case they do, you
can reasonably assert your innocence by the fact you did delete the few files
you did get by accident.
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Aaron,

I have recently had the same problem as a few others here, downloading everything that shows up as search results, including ******* kp (searching for videos with the keyword "young" is a bad idea!! - I expected to get 18 year old variety stuff, not toddlers). Your comments are definitely making me feel better. I have been constantly scrubbing my hard drive since I found i had that **** downloaded.

I still fear that the feds are going to show up at my house and take my computer and inspect it and find something and give me some 5-10 sentence because I was "in possession." I have never been a paranoid person or even worried about the government watching me, but now I just feel like a dirty fugitive.

I really hope you are right, that if I did fall into some kp sting trap on gnutella that my deleting the files (I actually stopped most from finishing dl'ing) would exonerate me. I still hate this feeling. I didn't knowingly do anything wrong but this country could still put me in federal prison for several years if they so chose.

Furthermore, the post below by killians is ******* horrifying if it is true in its entirety. It is all I can think about right now. P2P porn is obviously not worth it with all the sick ****ers sharing kp.

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You can and -will- be busted if you have illegal materials downloading and if you share out partials (which -will- happen). I had recently encountered the exact scenarios described here - legitimate downloading, searching for adult images, and finding that I had queued and downloaded KP. The items were deleted, but I didn't completely follow procedure. It'd just happened so many times I just see it and delete it. It doesn't really phase me anymore and I've been P2P sharing for years.

Three months ago, Feds showed up at my work, and at my house with a search and seizure warrant. They took five computers, 600 cds and dvds, and said "have a nice day, we'll be in touch."

I'm currently without a lawyer on retainer because it's federal and costs $10-15,000 for one if you haven't been charged yet. They can spend the next 285 days toying around with my stuff before deciding to charge me. I haven't slept more than a couple hours a night for three months because I know "how it looks". The law does not care what your intent was. They don't care about how the internet works. They only care that there was ever illegal porn on your computer.

I will probably go away for the Federal minimum sentence of 5 years, if not longer. It's taken me a long time to come to terms with the fact that I will not see justice in this case because the law is ignorant.

This is just to let you all know, be VERY careful. It might be your door they come knocking on next.
Any updates, killian?
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also,
can you not be charged if "they" just have the log showing you downloaded this trash... is that why they take your comp and search for the illegal files?
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No, such logs prove nothing. Just encrypt your disks, get Alzheimer and never worry about the FUD in here again.

"Any updates, killian?"

They don't read forums in Guantanamo Bay.
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I reformatted my drive and ran a defrag. Should that be enough?
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I don't know whether Aaron is an undercover DEA agent but that "defrag destroys all evidence" is pretty much nonsense. Especially running defrag after format is completely pointless. You thought you're smart because you knew that's gonna be faster, right? After a format completely fill the disk with non-compressible data. That should really destroy all evidence unless you're public no. 1 in which case the billion to restore the data anyway might be justified. Yeah I know under Windows such a simple task is really difficult to accomplish. Just download a boot disk for Linux or any BSD and use dd to overwrite your disk (dd if=/dev/zero bs=64k of=/dev/path_to_raw_device). That's a one-liner and effective.

Nonetheless, you should really use disk encryption and get some Alzheimer. There's no safer way and I'm pretty sure real lolipedofins are smart enough for that.
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