i think that a program should not have so many complications, so i'm just gonna try WinMX i guess. i have not posted many times, but have followed all these directions and have gone from not getting any connection, to a poor connection, then to excellent. I leave my computer for a half hour while downloading something, and i come back and it says limewire does not detect an internet connection (but there is) and firewall must be up (which it is not). Also says "TRUE" in example bug report. Any more suggestions before i start an anti-limewire forum?