hmmm i couldnt even get the test page to come up, i have been having a few problems with connections and bringing up certain web pages, im not fully up to speed with dsl and my router yet, my isp (iinet) has even admitted to having services problems due to upgrading their services but wont offer a discount whilst this is happening.

i think they think im a complete idiot and its an IE fault or sumfin else

I mite try ur original suggestion and tinker with the router help manual and ring iinet again, thanx for ur help all the same