i have tried your limewire fixes, i have deleted the .limewire folder, i have downloaded the JRE, and still nothing. all it says is unable to initialize and start please allow limewire access to the internet and restart limewire. i have added gnutella port 6346 ip address 127.0.0.1 tcp and udp in my firewall connections which is windows w/ XP. still i get nothing, it was fine until it upgraded to 4. any other suggestions?