Yawn, no thanks. I'll just use something else. I've installed it from 3 different downloads from limewire's site and mirrors. It's some crappy java issue I'm sure. It's not a virus, I've installed and uninstalled, and cleaned my registry, deleted the .limewire directory etc etc. I've posted pertinent log here, on the limewire site, I'm not going to register on norbies site so he can tell me how to use hijackthis. sigh.