ty birdy.i use a motorola modem model sb5100(pls dont tell its obsolete,pls dont tell me its obsolete but do tell me i spelled obsolete right).the thing that gets me is i didnt make any changes on lw or my hunk of junk claiming to be a computer.all has remained the same.i went through the sticky motions(mmmm,sexy)many times still to no avail.i tried with upnp,manual.im still in firewall hell.there is one bit of info that might help;im unable to enter 127.0.0.1 - the name i gave this P.O.S. over rides it.sigh