ok guys i knew how to get to the system info page , but here's the kicker . you cant change anything on it you can not change any settings its really dumb , i mean all this crap and you cant set it the way you want to, i guess im just SOL on the whole p2p thing fornow , portforward doesnt ahve anything on this modem/router, i uploaded screenshots of every page i could find on the system info and then i went to the advanced page and took screenshots of all of them and they emailed me and sai it looks like there is nothing you can do about it , your router/modem doesnt support port forwarding , but i think it does , just no one has figured it out yet...but i never give up , thanks for all of your help Granpa and mick . but im still trying .