Neither JAVA version changed the situation, still cannot connect. I've just noticed a message that comes up infrequently on my Kaspersky saying that Limewire can not connect to the server (then gives a series of numbers - looks like an ip address, though not the same every time) and asks that I allow an exception to avp.exe in my firewall but can not find this file on my system...even with a search, do you know what program this is?