Okay now I have J2SE Runtime Environment 5.0 Update 11 and 12, and I also have Java 2 Runtime Environment SE v1.4.2_15 and Java 6 Update 2, and then I tried everything on Birdy's post and the closest thing I got to getting in to LW was Note number 3 which was to delete LW preferences and when I did that Limewires setup came up and so I did that and then after that Limewire does the same thing that as it did before.