I tried the "manual port forward" thing, no success. Not sure about others in the complex, I choose my ISP. Frostwire did not work, did the same thing as limewire. Phex worked right off the bat, and I have downloaded songs already, did not try Bearshare since Phex worked. Why would this one work and not limewire? Also, if phex is working, is limewire better? What are the differences? Also, I did pay for limewire, so not sure what to think.... Thanks