yeah, i read those pages, but i am still not able to make the subtitles appear. I am using VLC because i have heard it should work, but it isnt, and i am lost because I have a mac and all the other suggested programs seem to be created for PCs (for example- Media player classic and vso or whatever). I have named the files exactly the .avi and .srt files exactly the same, and put them in the same folder. i even checked to make sure the srt file isnt bogus in textedit, but it isnt. i just dont really know where to go from here.