Further to my last post, have uninstalled it a couple of times more, but then I uninstalled everything with Limewire, registry as well, then I downloaded it from C/Net (just the basic one) then after installing this (I know it takes up a lot of time) I upgraded to Pro (which is what I had before) (click on "I have had Pro before") thats if you did, you have to give your e-mail address. When I did all this and it all downloaded Limewire started up, normally, when I shut down it stayed shut, no error messages, everything running smoothly (so far) hope this helps someone (Im pleased)