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Old April 1st, 2002
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Originally posted by swabby
I was trying to avoid his thread, but oh well, here it goes, us developers (bearshare, limewire, gnucleus, etc...) are working our asses off day and night, building a better network.
Well, many users and also some developers are not believing in Bearshare does Gnutella a favour. There is no general "us" for all Gnutella developers IMHO, perhaps for GDF developers which are the only who liked to cooperate with Bearshare and Limewire. Aren't you wondering that developers like Pasman (Xolox), Raphael (gtk-gnutella), GodxBlue (Peeranha) are not or never were on the GDF? Is Mike (Cultivator) still on the GDF? Don't forget the non programming staff (most active and serious members here): TruStarWarrior left and Morgwen is thinking about leaving because of BS/LW, as far as I know Kathw isn't pleased too. I allready left active Gnutella support.

For example my point is that Bearshare is abusing Gnutella (have a look on the openp2p thread for details). I wonder a little bit that Vinnie is really a helpfull person for you, how many papers and workedout suggestion have you seen from him? Okay, I can understand that you don't want to kick Limewire, which does GDF development. Without Bearshare I don't see a negative change for Gnutella or development. My thesis is: if there would be a more open, better documented and friendly place for development... more developers and network specialist would like to help. I have met many Gnutella intersted persons which did not want to be part of the GDF (Bearshare was one reason). You don't believe me? Okay, wait some month and with more Bearshare politics you'll hear more users and developers complaining, doing something beside GDF-Gnutella. The most just don't wanna use their free time to post explanations why they don't like Vinnies politics, instead code. Hm, I'm not lucky about seeing Gnutella interests are kinda splittet, but philosophies seems to be very different when I listen to developers.

Greets, Moak

PS: Xolox introduced multisegmented downloading and hashs (CRC32 that time) 7 months ago now.

Last edited by Moak; April 1st, 2002 at 04:09 AM.
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