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Old June 10th, 2008
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Actually, just kicking them off our internet, which -we- (the isps) own, would be rather effective...

1: there is no "ownership" on ip ranges, they have nothing to claim if other people would just announce theirs and don't reply to abusemail :P
that would only remove them from the internet, not help them out of business tho.

2: any larger isp can do a hostile takeover on their members (such as vivaldi (universalmusic) with 1.2 billion shares at 26 dollars each both google and level3 could easily buy them and dismantle their companies).. would be better for the internet as a whole if someone did.. maybe we should collect some money?

3: their little copyrights thing can't be maintained in court anyway
my password string generator can and has generated all possible byte sequences up to 2gb stringlength, therefore all midi files (common music notation), cd iso's, books, mp3's movies etc included.

4: their little copyrights thing can also not be proven in court in case the media is compressed, after all, it's only a 'work based upon'.. the frequencies are different and therefore the music notation is different as well, the length is different and the data is different. most stuff out there on the various p2p networks happens to be compressed.. mind you, noone ever fought them on that point because everyone just 'assumes' they're right.. wars aren't about who's right, they're about who's left in the end, and if everyone just let's them have their way, it'll be them

5: in all cases where we had contact with them regarding sites of our customers they weren't even capable of providing proof that they actually had orders from whomever they claimed to represent to represent them and stalk us and spread lies about our customers which they could not even prove (see points 3 and 4).

6: they can take you to court all they like, they're a bunch of nerdy attorneys after all.. ambulance chasers, but when it get's personal and dangerous they'll just hide away.


we should not remove them from our internet, we should just remove them of our planet (literally)..
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