Unless I' looking in the wrong place, about this computer-Contents-Software-Applications-Java Preferences 12.5.0 Java web start 12.5.0 Software Frameworks- Java Application Launcher 12.5.0 Java Script Core 5531.21 Java Script Glue 5531.21 Bt then again, it's all greek to me. More importantly, I've downloaded LW 4.18 for now, it will have to do until something is done so that I can get LW 5.2.4 Pro. c'est la vie. Thanx for all your help, Brickman.