I'd like to try that, since nothing else is working, but will that work for a mac running 10.2.8? I can't find that file. I have found javaws.cfg, javaws.jar, and javaws.policy. And if anybody else reads this, when I mean nothing else is working, I tried everything posted in the forum and then some. Even changing the prelude to read limewire. If it helps any of you troublshooters the only thing I can add is that it worked before I ran DiskWarrior to rebuild my directory.