victory! thanks for your input Witch Doctor
i was thinking along the same lines when i went to sleep last night.. in the morning give each file in the LimeWire directory write access to all users, not just the directories.. i figured the non root account process of LimeWire was trying to write to a configuration file when it shutdown and couldnt so it just wouldnt shutdown
thanks for sharing your experience i have total success with this amazing application now
take care i'm outta here