STOP thief!!! Hit and run... First off - NEWBIE alert! Ok that said, here's the problem. Several I.P. have been zipping into my files, grabbing stuff and are GONE. This happens so fast that I thought at first that it was a connection error. I have the latest LW Pro and etc and share about 4500 files in a lot of different categories. There's no plan to the hits and it happens at different times of the day but now I use the Monitor feature quite a bit. I've been able to write down a few of the I.P.'s and add them to my Block Host feature and viola' in a minute or less they're back on my system with an I.P. address exactly the same except for the last few numbers. So I searched your forums over and over and couldn't find a topic that looked right. What I did find was the following: _______________________________________________ Unregistered Guest Registered: Not Yet Location: Posts: N/A Question I got the same kind of thing from another IP (200.35.104.152) today. Tried to download just about every song i have. i added the IP to my banned list, but it didn't matter, so I traced it to see where it came from.. somewhere in the middle of Venezula lies the heart of evil.. jk, but seriously I think it might be due to a server that scans mp3 files for name/size to add to filter blocks on other programs (napster, aimster, etc.) and then again, it might be our old friends the RIAA stealing VALUABLE dl spots from ppl willing to share this way instead of .. RIP napster Report this post to a moderator | IP: Logged Old Post 07-09-2001 05:00 PM Edit/Delete Message Reply w/Quote _______________________________________________ This sounds very much like my problem but I can't find the answer. and the post is dated 2001 so I didn't reopen it. Additionally, I don't have a tracer as mentioned above but it seems as if that won't do any good either. Is there a way to stop these people. The other day I got so frustrated that I quit downloading the song I was after, deleted all of my shared files, saved the changes and went back to Monitor and the frightening thing was that they were still doing it although I banned their I.P. AND quit sharing. Does anyone know how they do this? Does anyone know how to stop it. Does any remember that I'm a newbie so GO EASY ON ME PLEASE! Thanx, Marc001First off |
Hi Marc Welcome, and nice first post: the preparation is much appreciated. Some of what you say sounds normal. The "quick grab" might just be for a piece of the file--quite normal when you and many other hosts are providing the files. Such uploads show as "complete" but the % is less than 100% When someone browses you, they may choose to download many of your files. They are usually new users who don't realize that 3 at a time is considered normal, but repeated attempts at more, trigger the automatic "Banned greedy client" treatment. Most of my files go to such folks, so I have set my prefs to allow them to download 10 at a time so they can avoid getting automatically banned by my settings. However, the repeated attempts to get files that are unavailable is old behaviour from poor clients. Current clients will not repeatedly try for a file once it is unshared. Check the Vendor column of the monitor pane to see what version someone is using to get your file. btw, you don't have to delete the files to unshare them. In your Library, there are many ways to stop sharing a file. Check out the menus there and see what else you get by right-clicking a file. Easiest way to avoid paranoia about the copyright cartels is stay away from their junk :p |
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Thanks for kudos. I've learned my lesson from other forums that basic knowledge of the topics is essential and simple stupidity isn't tolerated. I try to make my point clear and as detailed as possible. In addition to that, thanks for the quick reply as well. Some places take days just to review it and then pass around before someone decides to take a crack at it. Anyway, you're saying the 'quick grab' is ok and just let it go, right? I've changed my setting to let them download 10 at a time as you suggested and I will watch the Monitor section to see how that works. I didn't know about the automatic 'banned' feature but I'm glad it's there. Can that be configured somehow? If not, no bother. You can tell this one's a newbie, who doesn't know to right click on menus to see additional instructions? Take me to the land of DUH and crown me King. Again thanx Marc001 |
btw--I'm not recommending allowing each person to get 10 at a time: that was just an example. I share photos that most users aren't interested in getting. So, when one interested party comes along, the usual default settings aren't good for that person. If my files were really popular and large, I'd change my settings to only allow one upload per person. That way a single user couldn't monopolize my uploads for long periods. The key is to keep doing what you are doing: monitor the uploads to get a sense of how best to allow your shares to get out there. If in doubt, revert the preferences to the defaults (there's a button to do so in the options). Cheers |
Just a Thought Marc001 Just an additional suggestion that other members may or may not like: Do you have a firewall? A firewall will protect you from random and malicious connections as well as anything someone may try to download to your PC, like a worm or Trojan. I note that this is not really what you are complaining about but it is better to be safe than sorry. PeerGuardian 2.0 This freebie software is similar to a mini firewall but, unlike a firewall, it protects your PC on the IP level. It stops various IPs (companies) getting into your PC via port 6346 and, the part you could be interested in, you can specify a range of IP addresses, by putting in the first and last IP address, you want to keep out of your PC. So all in all, PeerGuardian 2.0 seems to be the software for you, available from here: http://www.methlabs.org UK Bob |
Marc's post reminded me of something that happened to me once. I have my settings set for one upload per person at a time. It works for me. One day I discovered a host downloading 5 files off me at a time, and they were transferring very fast. As I recall, this was the only host downlading from me at the time so I shut down and re-booted. This has not happened since and was a trifle scarry. Marcs comment " I've learned my lesson from other forums that basic knowledge of the topics is essential and simple stupidity isn't tolerated" would be a fine introduction to newbie innitiation: And I don't think we have really answered his question "Does anyone know how they do this?" |
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Hash tree? Is that the same as the file tree? Feel free to correct my ignorance. I'm here to learn. Marc001 |
Only A Hobo, Glad you liked my comment about learning a lesson. Ops/Moderators have a lot to do other than sitting around waiting for them to get their elbow out of their ear and do a little groundwork first. How I learned it was as a NooB on a site forum looking for a certain file. I posted it in the wrong forum. Then I posted it wrong in another forum, the topic was unclear, the information I was trying to get was weak and I really got them p/o'd. Did I bother to search for an answer? Why should I when someone will simply tell me what I need to know - really bad assumption that!! The webmaster spammed me for days with 'WAKE UP' messages. Lesson learned. LOLOL Maybe I should make that my tagline. Marc001 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ And I don't think we have really answered his question "Does anyone know how they do this?" __________________ Patience Is A Virtue! Hell No.... With Computers It's A Necessity! Mac OSX 10.3.9 G3 Blue & White LW4.9.29 Pro Java 1.4.2_09 |
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LOTR said ..."That's what I was suggesting. That these/this person has selected lots of your shared files simultaneously (such as using the SHIFT key) to downld. What you see in the monitor window is them downlding the hashtree somewhat quickly. I'm pretty sure it was not that... No it was definitely 5 files being D/ld simultaneously, and I watched for some time. I then checked my preferences and they were set do 1 upload per person and I came back and the downloading was continuing. The uploading of the hash tree (which I must admit I thought was some pot smoker's song being uploaded the first time I saw it :D) only takes a short time and is labeled as such in the monitor window. This only happened to me once and I had totally forgotten about it until now. btw "And I don't think we have really answered his question "Does anyone know how they do this?"" was originally my comment .. and while the Hash tree might be a possiblity, I like Marc remain curious. It looks as if he's pinched my sig, but I don't think he meant to:):D :confused: |
Update on this issue I want to thank each and every one of you for the help and suggestions. After reading the posts, I went to LW and reset the preferences to default. Again, I'm using LWPro 4.8.1 and after that, I reset the file sharing back to the ones I'd had before. Ready for this? It was like they were waiting on me. I had six IMMEDIATE I.P.'s doing it to me. They weren't the same I.P.'s the instances varied as in one of them was taking 5 files although I set it to one (1) another was doing it one file at a time with such speed it wasn't possible to get the I.P. address. In and gone the whole thing took less than 30 seconds. By the way, I'm on DSL if that helps/hinders. Again, thanx Marc001 Just send me to nooB asylum and lock me up! |
In Options or preferences > uploads > basic >Clear uploads > Uncheck the box "Automatically Clear Completed Updates" Right click on column bar in monitor window and select extra> extended tool tips These two things will help you see what's going on a bit better. If you hover over dowupload results you will see time taken and speed for instance, but ........ I cannot help thinking that you are a marced man;) |
Well I tried everything and then shut it down. I'll keep it off for an hour or so and then start it back up. I noticed that my downloads seem to be going faster and after I reset the default, I didn't see as many I.P.'s whipping through. I'll let you know what happens if anything. Thanx Marc001 |
Auto-clearing of uplds & downlds for mac osx users is supposed to help reduce VM usage. Whilst it's very handy to have around, mac osx users who have their computers turned on for many days with LW running may prefer to keep VM & RAM usage to a minimum particularly if they're still using Java 1.4.2 Closing windows that don't need to be open at the time also helps to reduce this. Also cleaning of very old search results. But I am speaking specifically re: osx with Java 1.4.2 & AFAIK. Earlier version Beta testing & advice brought out these suggestions. If I can struggle with RAM & VM with 1.5 GB RAM & 2 x 120 GB internal drives. This is purely side advice as it doesn't actually have any direct influence on your original question & answer. |
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